• Grimy@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    It’s easy to see I care just because of how active I am in the discussion. While you were being silent during the few months lemmy was talking about it and nothing else, I was in every thread.

    I have helped and am in direct contact with one (you didn’t mention it but it was one of your other rhetorical reasons used to tell me I can’t have an opinion). The fact is, my behavior backs this up a lot more then yours. I could easily accuse you of lying about sending letters and having a transdaughter, but I’ve kept my arguments mostly centered around the issue of blaming voters and your behavior that goes directly against what you are saying.

    All you care about is winning an argument. I’ve told you I went to protests. Even if I had done nothing, that doesnt change the fact that villainizing voters that are conflicted on genocide is essentially normalizing it.

    In any case the subject at hand is our behavior on lemmy. You spent hours being silent about it even though you post at a break neck rate. And then you spent hours blaming voters and arguing with anyone that criticized the behavior.

    (Also, I don’t believe for a second you didn’t know I was a Jew.)

    The conversation is about the implications of blaming voters, and then how you lie to argue your point (which I clearly showed). I don’t think you’re a zionist because you’re Jewish but because of your behavior. I had assume you’re Jewish because most zionist are but I didn’t know for certain until yesterday. Your religion doesn’t have much to do with the subject tbh and I simply don’t care, it’s your subtle support of israel and constant rhetoric that bothers me.

    Are you now trying to imply I’m antisemitic instead of talking about the implications of blaming voters and your part in it? You haven’t really stayed on subject and have only told me why I can’t have my opinion and not why it’s wrong.

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      While you were being silent during the few months lemmy was talking about it and nothing else, I was in every thread.

      This is a lie. And if you were in “every thread,” you know it’s a lie. But you were by no means in every thread. A very simple search would prove you’re lying, but you’d rather lie.

      and having a transdaughter

      I never said my daughter was trans. You think all gay people are trans?

      You spent hours being silent about it even though you post at a break neck rate. And then you spent hours blaming voters and arguing with anyone that criticized the behavior.

      I’m literally in a different time zone than I used to be across an ocean. Sorry I can’t post at the exact same time as you.

      Are you now trying to imply I’m antisemitic

      Oh it’s more than implying. You also are acting queerphobic. And you’re suggesting I put other people’s welfare over my own child’s, which is called neglect and is a good way to get your child taken away from you, so I sure as hell hope you aren’t a parent.

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        11 hours ago

        I don’t know what I would be implying by calling your daughter trans. It’s easy to see it’s a simple mistake. I’m not a queerphobe just like I’m not an antisemite. Calling you a zionist for your view isn’t the same as calling you one because of your religion. The coincidence doesn’t somehow absolve you of your behavior.

        No one is asking you to choose your daughter over Palestine. The vote is over, we are asking you to stop blaming voters which doesn’t require choosing anything. Stop using your daughter to score points on the internet.

        Imagine if the table were turned and the dems chose to throw the whole queer community under the bus. Imagine if they had gay concentration camps a year before the election. You would obviously feel conflicted about voting, even if Trump was undoubtedly worse.

        You might be able to do the right thing and vote smartly even if you hate it. I doubt you would be able to stomach seeing a heaping spoonful of vitriol constantly being aimed at voters instead of the dems who set them up in the first place.

        The dems chose Israel over your daughter, yet you blame people that were conflicting on genocide instead. You partake in the behavior and only argue with those that condemn it while pretending to be neutral. The moment someone challenges you, you fall into the deepest rhetoric and even straight up lies, using your family and religion as pawns.

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          8 hours ago

          No one is asking you to choose your daughter over Palestine.

          Multiple people literally have told me that I should have stayed behind in the U.S. to fight against Palestinian genocide, as if that were something that could only be done in the U.S., and that there will be no queer genocide, so she will be safe and I’m just running away with my tail between my legs.

          So yeah, people are literally asking me to do that.

          And I think it’s hilarious that you admit the election is over but are continuing to go on about American politics. When are you going to get the fact into your head that I could not give less of a fuck about the Democrats?

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            7 hours ago

            Multiple people literally have told me

            I’m not one of them. How is it relevant to this conversation.

            And I think it’s hilarious that you admit the election is over but are *continuing to go on about American politics.

            We are in a thread about American politics you goofball. Politics aren’t only relevant for a few months every 4 years. I’m saying the elections are over and therefore attacking voters is just giving the democrats an easy scapegoat, it doesn’t serve anything and is objectively wrong.

            I could not give less of a fuck about the Democrats?

            Yet by blaming voters and arguing with anyone that is critical of the behavior, you defend them.

            You seem to never actually mention what we are talking about, each time just latching on to whatever silly thing you think you can twist into an advantage.

            WHY SHOULD THE VOTERS BE BLAMED. WHY DO YOU THINK THEY ARE RELEVANT IN THE CURRENT CONTEXT.

            This is actually what we are talking about. This is what I was criticizing before you started arguing against the thought. I probably wont respond after this comment, I seriously don’t expect you to actually stay on subject.

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              6 hours ago

              Cool. Now you’re changing what you said, because this is originally what you said-

              No one is asking you to choose your daughter over Palestine.

              Are you not telling me or is no one telling me?

              I’ll consider reading the rest of your post when you decide which it is.

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                  6 hours ago

                  And yet you claimed no one was. Interesting. Almost as if you thought that no one has been telling me that every fucking day for months now.

                  But I’m sure you know better than me what I’ve experienced.

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                    6 hours ago

                    Lmao, predictable

                    I seriously don’t expect you to actually stay on subject.

                    You seem to never actually mention what we are talking about, each time just latching on to whatever silly thing you think you can twist into an advantage.