• hector@lemmy.today
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    2 days ago

    The US and company fomented the unrest to the best of their ability you can be sure. Coming on the heels of a bad faith war with Israel and the US that Iran was powerless to respond to, having to be humiliated and have nothing of substance to return with, these protests will be ruthlessly crushed as Iran rallies around the flag.

    The protests are associated with the US. Even before the president talked about it. The US is doing all it can to exacerbate them too.

    Celebrating this is naive, this is just more cause for war being manufactured so Israel can postpone elections longer, and associated bullshit in the US’ Israel First policy.

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      Yeah it’s better to have a legal code that allows women to be stoned. Obviously there’s no way anyone in that country could ever not want that. Must be the US

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        14 hours ago

        do you know these protests arent about women rights but economic condition? which is worse due to unfair sanctions by the fascist state of amrikkka?

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        Yeah it’s better to have a legal code that allows women to be stoned.

        If it’s a binary choice, remind me what they have now that’s better.

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        You are so worried about human rights when it’s a US military target, funny how that works.

        Because their government is bad, then it’s totally ok to go to war with them and try to get a different bad government. Our government has such a good track record setting up puppet regimes too, what in Iraq and Afghanistan.

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          Suddenly you know everything about me?

          Do you truly believe I only care because it’s a “US military target”?

          Because their government is bad, then it’s totally ok to go to war with them and try to get a different bad government

          Never said that either. It’s also a statement I’m fundamentally against.

          It’s also equally true that the government of Iran is oppressive.

          Both of these can be true.

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            Sure sounded like you were endorsing military action, endorsing the worst people on the planet, and the most hated in the region, to bomb them some more, maybe assassinate some of their leaders. Because they are mean.

            You think the US getting involved militarily is going to help?

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              You think the US getting involved militarily is going to help?

              Never said that, nor does this article. Actually if you are done trying to make an argument I said just the opposite

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                I did go back over your comments, and you are full of shit. You are whipping up cause for war you lied to me.

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                  What the hell are you talking about? Every comment I made is anti-intervetion.

                  I do hope the people of Iran overthrow their government. It’s terribly repressive.

                  I do not want to US or any outside power to get involved.

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      Iran powerless even after the terrorist orgs they bankroll went wonky? Tell that to the unarmed civilians they shot in the fucking face.

      You’re a disgusting anti-human ghoul, shilling for tyrants and murders.

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        Yes not giving the US and Israel cause for more Iran war is “disgusting,” great point. That is the quality of conversation I have come to expect from the mechanized troll legions and their carpet bombing of social media campaigns with diarrhea shit.

        It works on some people, the weak minded.

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          Why do you consider rape, murder, and maiming as state policy as an acceptable way to terrorize the Iranian people for protesting?

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            Israel rapes kills and murders. You want to give them cause to wreck havoc in Iran.

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                Israel rapes, murders, shunts millions of others into ghettos and tries to final solution them all, while lashing out at their powerless neighbors with absolute military and intelligenc superiority, under false pretenses. Then schemes to keep lashing out after international pressure forced them to put their fhetto reprisals and bad neighborism back on simmer.

                Which is where we are. Restarting bad faith war between an advanced military with unlimited funds and a rudimentary military with limited funds.

                You are going to get those protesters hurt with your cassus belli here.

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                  I dont want a war. I dont want military intervention. I just want these protestors to succeed. I know some of them. They should not have to live under the IRI anymore.

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                    14 hours ago

                    As I’ve explained ad nauseum, the only way for that to happen is for the democratic establishment to be replaced with agressive popular reformists.

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              Because Isreal has acted evilly, that justifies the Iranian government shooting their citizens in the face for protesting?

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                Your logic would not fool a child. Because Iran bad let worse Israel and US people make it worse. War mongers do not make very good arguments, just repeat them aggressively, and are backed up by the government running legions of trolls and bots and using their corrupt influence to make it seem like those war mongering justifications are accepted by people.

                No to Iran War 2. Spin that.

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                  The only people shooting Iranians today is the Iranian government, your attempts to deflect aren’t working. Why is Iran murdering and maiming protesters justified to you?

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                    You are trying to trick people into thinking that flawed logic is something shared by a lot of people, and it’s not. You could justify going to war with any country with your logic. Government bad, therefore war with them good. Brilliant truly. But it’s not about making good arguments is it? It’s about making it seem like people think like that to influence them, and it’s about bullying people into not challenging your arguments made on behalf of the US and Israel to justify more war.

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      I doubt it. The US has very little power to foment anything there. Mossad has assets in Iran but limited assets that they use sparingly. This was almost certainly an organic grassroots revolution. Now, I’d for sure agree that Mossad and the US are doing anything in their power to move things along.

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        They are doing a lot you can be sure. From sabotaging their economy every way they can, to funding any seperatists, paying informants and tools for things, smuggling and setting up clandestine internet/communication networks, tor onion beaming signals between devices and over power lines and othr such clandestine ways with encrpytion. To sponsoring agent provokareurs at demonstrations. To egging on security services and protests to violence.

        All while exagerating the size and support of protests, minimizing the support and position of the regime, and exagerating the scale of crackdowns.

        All while tricking security services into attacking their people and vice versa, from a position of near total compromise of electronics.

        You are quite mistaken as to how deeply we are involved in fomenting unrest.