There are a couple dozen people who keep a smaller community alive (like PugJesus on history, anon6789 on owls, JohnnyEnzyme on euro graphic novels, LaurenceWolse on b movies, Nexius Lobster on traditional art, etc); occasionally someone takes over a community and starts posting regularly, and occasionally someone burns out and the community dies.
this is actually why meme communities I block over time (new ones come up though like constatnly). I like to peruse all looking for interesting things. unfortunately news and politics are to important for me to clear out and I mean. who wants to clear out tech :)
Fwiw PieFed (which is a Lemmy alternative that isn’t quite ready for mainstream usage yet, but is nonetheless coming along nicely:-) has Categories of Communities - e.g. https://piefed.social/topic/news - so that at a touch of a button you can switch to see a feed dedicated to that, or some other, topic.
Then see also those sub-topic links at the top allowing further filtering to your more specific desires, like “US Politics”, “World”, “RSS Feeds”, etc. Using this, you can have your cake (e.g. all the memes, yes I mean ALL of them!!! 😁) and eat it too (i.e. they politely go away whenever you want them too:-P).
That’s not really possible in Lemmy itself just yet (except probably in some apps but I don’t use those so not sure which ones) unless you create multiple alt accounts and set up subscriptions for each one tailored to a specific interest type.
Which wrapping back around to the OP, helps explain why we are far less active than those Fediverse activity stats show - e.g. I personally am 3 of those Monthly Active Users. Not that that’s bad, just saying that they are known to be inaccurate.
this is very interesting and definately has some features I want. mbin/lemmy have future plans to integrate with mastadon and such I believe. do you know where piefed stands on that?
No but it’s pretty early in development (and yet amazingly well developed for that) as a Lemmy alternative, and so I doubt there are plans to expand beyond that like to Mastodon or Friendica, at least until it becomes more fully featured regarding its Lemmy functionality. e.g. user tagging like @openstars@piefed.social is not implemented yet. It does already have hashtag support though:-). Certain features are just amazingly well done, while more basic and foundational features are needing to catch up. Thus it is something to watch with close interest, as well as a few of us with early adopter mindsets to test out even as a daily driver.:-)
yeah I mean I started on kbin as despite complaints on how he did things he seemed to be making something I liked better and when it blew up I went to mbin but I notice the features do not move as quickly as when earnest was in the mix. so im already not on lemmy. will give it a try.
I got my start on Kbin.social as well - he was ambitious, that’s for sure, but despite all the people clamoring that they could do things faster and better, that dream doesn’t look to me like it has materialized? Although Mbin is also good as it is, if you like the interface and also want the interconnection with Mastodon.
I do see features being added to PieFed over time, and hold out high hopes for it.
Sublinks also looks promising, though it was paused for basically a year due to its founder having a baby.
yeah as far as I know mbin does not yet allow the connection with mastodon. I thought it had but looked it up and it seemed to be a soon type of thing.
you can do it. you just need to open the magnifying glass for Search and paste in the address for the mastodon account… same as subbing to a remote magazine.
if you search for someone youre already following, or click ‘following’ under your profile and click the remote user you will see their posts.
here is George Tekei’s feed who is on universeodon
do you know if there is a way to get the list of topics in a way to choose more topics after the start? I clicked on a fair amount and figured I would just hit go and add more later but I can’t seem to get the checkboxes. Just the list of topics for perusing.
Well I know a way but you won’t like it. Actually two ways.
The first is to start your own PieFed server instance. The second is to message an existing person who admins one to add it. Whenever I add new communities, like !AskUSA@discuss.online, it just goes under the generic Home -> Communities, while in comparison !AskLemmy@Lemmy.World goes underneath Home -> Topics -> Chilling and so that’s where AskUSA should have gone as well.
Perhaps in the future, whoever brings in a community could make a suggestion as to which Topic areas it should lie underneath, but PieFed is fairly early in its development and thus kind of “polish” is still being added. But for now, it’s something that is predefined by whoever admins the instance.
The good news is that the devs & admins are EXTREMELY responsive, both in speed and concern for what they are making. Like, if you ask for it, there’s a very good chance its prioritization would be increased over other things to get it working faster. Here’s an example post of mine showing such conversation: https://piefed.social/post/301249.
Oh and perhaps I misunderstood you - something like a text listing of them should be available within the code itself, if that’s what you meant? Or there’s https://piefed.social/topics - is that what you mean? I just noticed that the way to access this list changed just today or yesterday I think - this page used to exist but it was also a drop down list as well (that never worked right in my desktop browser, though did on a mobile), so if it is being difficult lately that is likely why:-).
Though beware if you are considering making PieFed your daily driver: it helps if you know your way around Lemmy and have a backup account for when you can’t get things done using PieFed. Searching for instance is not great, so trying to find a post I usually do with Lemmy rather than PieFed. Another is that Notifications are more than a little bit broken: e.g. your very comment reply to me here I had an extremely difficult time trying to find - I read through every comment on this thread before finding yours in fact. The reasons this can happen are many and varied: posts that later get removed still remain in your Notifications area, as do users from instances that you have blocked, and if a comment is buried too deeply in the chain in a post then you’ll need to click the Continue thread button, except you won’t know which one of those to click in the first place, also a comment can be auto-collapsed or even hidden, frustratingly even if it was not at the time you replied but then that happened later then you similarly to these other situations won’t be taken right to it when you click the notification. Honestly sometimes I’ll go to Lemmy, visit the post, and search for my name and see all the people who replied to me, then walk up the chain to see some text to search for, then switch back to PieFed to actually do the reply… So anyway: TLDR: PieFed is quite interesting, and I do use it for my daily driver, but it can also be quite frustrating until some of these more foundational issues are fixed.
That said, PieFed already can do more than Lemmy, in so many ways. For one, I can have it send me a notification upon every single new post in a community or my choosing, like !tenforward@lemmy.world and !
AskUSA@discuss.online, and for another, if I wanted I could have it cease sending me notifications for a comment that I made if people decide to relentlessly troll me for WEEKS and WEEKS afterwards (this is no mere hypothetical situation: both hexbear and Lemmygrad have done this exact thing to me). I can also view a post without having to read any comments at all from users posting from an instance of my own choosing - instance blocking is horrible misnamed on Lemmy and does next to nothing along those lines, while defederation is dependent upon an admin, except that PieFed puts that ability to choose into the hands of its users. That alone made me want to choose it, but everything else is does is great too! Caveat: so long as I can fall back onto Lemmy when I need to.
Also PieFed has next to no moderation tools, so there’s a lot that is still coming.:-) I am definitely here for it!:-)
Yeah I don’t think you quite got me. When you first start you choose topics you like and I would like to be able to go back and select more or deselect ones I previously selected. I really like what they seem to be trying to do but it is limited. You can join communities but not block them or block topics. This would be huge for me because I have no interest in sports so I block all sports communities but if I could block sports as a topic that would be really useful. I do like that they have the keyword thing. Especially short term. Sometimes something happens in the news and its like you don’t want the clutter from the barrage of articles.
I think that initial sign-up even if it mentioned that it was for topic areas, was actually joining you to communities? (Bc the actual “Topic” areas seems to be invariable) I mean, based on those Topic areas that you selected, it Joined you to Communities that will fill up your All feed.
You can now “leave” a community at any time, and while this doesn’t seem to block it from showing up in the Topic areas list - more’s the pity, bc it really should - it at least stops it from showing up in the All feed. And ofc you can (re-)join other Communities as well.
So as we are seeing, things tend to work slightly differently than Lemmy.:-) What I find helpful is how my entire “workflow” is different on it: since Lemmy doesn’t even offer Notifications for posts from communities, for those where there are only like 0-3 posts per day, I prefer receiving those Notifications rather than have to “find” the communities as I would have done in Lemmy. Like, this works much better than hoping that they show up in a Feed somewhere, especially when a community is small like !starwarsmemes@lemmy.world. Then again, this would work better for someone who checks things daily, although… there is a “Mark all as read” button as well.
On Lemmy I used to browse All rather than Subscribed, but on PieFed I usually use a combination of Notifications and rarely browsing All or like when I want a concentration of news stories (ahem, even from communities that I’ve “Left” even:-), then that is available as well. This whole aspect of PieFed really works much better for me overall, though indeed it took quite some getting used to it at first to discover what was possible and have to re-think my workflow. I hope this description helps you think through what may work best for you, or perhaps you’ll just copy this.:-)
The big three are:
There are a couple dozen people who keep a smaller community alive (like PugJesus on history, anon6789 on owls, JohnnyEnzyme on euro graphic novels, LaurenceWolse on b movies, Nexius Lobster on traditional art, etc); occasionally someone takes over a community and starts posting regularly, and occasionally someone burns out and the community dies.
this is actually why meme communities I block over time (new ones come up though like constatnly). I like to peruse all looking for interesting things. unfortunately news and politics are to important for me to clear out and I mean. who wants to clear out tech :)
Fwiw PieFed (which is a Lemmy alternative that isn’t quite ready for mainstream usage yet, but is nonetheless coming along nicely:-) has Categories of Communities - e.g. https://piefed.social/topic/news - so that at a touch of a button you can switch to see a feed dedicated to that, or some other, topic.
Then see also those sub-topic links at the top allowing further filtering to your more specific desires, like “US Politics”, “World”, “RSS Feeds”, etc. Using this, you can have your cake (e.g. all the memes, yes I mean ALL of them!!! 😁) and eat it too (i.e. they politely go away whenever you want them too:-P).
That’s not really possible in Lemmy itself just yet (except probably in some apps but I don’t use those so not sure which ones) unless you create multiple alt accounts and set up subscriptions for each one tailored to a specific interest type.
Which wrapping back around to the OP, helps explain why we are far less active than those Fediverse activity stats show - e.g. I personally am 3 of those Monthly Active Users. Not that that’s bad, just saying that they are known to be inaccurate.
this is very interesting and definately has some features I want. mbin/lemmy have future plans to integrate with mastadon and such I believe. do you know where piefed stands on that?
Mbin already integrates with Mastodon.
I got a few responses and worked it out.
No but it’s pretty early in development (and yet amazingly well developed for that) as a Lemmy alternative, and so I doubt there are plans to expand beyond that like to Mastodon or Friendica, at least until it becomes more fully featured regarding its Lemmy functionality. e.g. user tagging like @openstars@piefed.social is not implemented yet. It does already have hashtag support though:-). Certain features are just amazingly well done, while more basic and foundational features are needing to catch up. Thus it is something to watch with close interest, as well as a few of us with early adopter mindsets to test out even as a daily driver.:-)
yeah I mean I started on kbin as despite complaints on how he did things he seemed to be making something I liked better and when it blew up I went to mbin but I notice the features do not move as quickly as when earnest was in the mix. so im already not on lemmy. will give it a try.
I got my start on Kbin.social as well - he was ambitious, that’s for sure, but despite all the people clamoring that they could do things faster and better, that dream doesn’t look to me like it has materialized? Although Mbin is also good as it is, if you like the interface and also want the interconnection with Mastodon.
I do see features being added to PieFed over time, and hold out high hopes for it.
Sublinks also looks promising, though it was paused for basically a year due to its founder having a baby.
you can follow users on mastodon on mbin.
here is a screen of me searching for and following a mastodon account:
yeah as far as I know mbin does not yet allow the connection with mastodon. I thought it had but looked it up and it seemed to be a soon type of thing.
you can do it. you just need to open the magnifying glass for Search and paste in the address for the mastodon account… same as subbing to a remote magazine.
if you search for someone youre already following, or click ‘following’ under your profile and click the remote user you will see their posts.
here is George Tekei’s feed who is on universeodon
Omg I thought that was like it’s whole deal even!? 😞😲
Really ? I thought the microblogging part of Mbin could connect to Mastodon very easily
do you know if there is a way to get the list of topics in a way to choose more topics after the start? I clicked on a fair amount and figured I would just hit go and add more later but I can’t seem to get the checkboxes. Just the list of topics for perusing.
Well I know a way but you won’t like it. Actually two ways.
The first is to start your own PieFed server instance. The second is to message an existing person who admins one to add it. Whenever I add new communities, like !AskUSA@discuss.online, it just goes under the generic Home -> Communities, while in comparison !AskLemmy@Lemmy.World goes underneath Home -> Topics -> Chilling and so that’s where AskUSA should have gone as well.
Perhaps in the future, whoever brings in a community could make a suggestion as to which Topic areas it should lie underneath, but PieFed is fairly early in its development and thus kind of “polish” is still being added. But for now, it’s something that is predefined by whoever admins the instance.
The good news is that the devs & admins are EXTREMELY responsive, both in speed and concern for what they are making. Like, if you ask for it, there’s a very good chance its prioritization would be increased over other things to get it working faster. Here’s an example post of mine showing such conversation: https://piefed.social/post/301249.
Oh and perhaps I misunderstood you - something like a text listing of them should be available within the code itself, if that’s what you meant? Or there’s https://piefed.social/topics - is that what you mean? I just noticed that the way to access this list changed just today or yesterday I think - this page used to exist but it was also a drop down list as well (that never worked right in my desktop browser, though did on a mobile), so if it is being difficult lately that is likely why:-).
Though beware if you are considering making PieFed your daily driver: it helps if you know your way around Lemmy and have a backup account for when you can’t get things done using PieFed. Searching for instance is not great, so trying to find a post I usually do with Lemmy rather than PieFed. Another is that Notifications are more than a little bit broken: e.g. your very comment reply to me here I had an extremely difficult time trying to find - I read through every comment on this thread before finding yours in fact. The reasons this can happen are many and varied: posts that later get removed still remain in your Notifications area, as do users from instances that you have blocked, and if a comment is buried too deeply in the chain in a post then you’ll need to click the Continue thread button, except you won’t know which one of those to click in the first place, also a comment can be auto-collapsed or even hidden, frustratingly even if it was not at the time you replied but then that happened later then you similarly to these other situations won’t be taken right to it when you click the notification. Honestly sometimes I’ll go to Lemmy, visit the post, and search for my name and see all the people who replied to me, then walk up the chain to see some text to search for, then switch back to PieFed to actually do the reply… So anyway: TLDR: PieFed is quite interesting, and I do use it for my daily driver, but it can also be quite frustrating until some of these more foundational issues are fixed.
That said, PieFed already can do more than Lemmy, in so many ways. For one, I can have it send me a notification upon every single new post in a community or my choosing, like !tenforward@lemmy.world and !
AskUSA@discuss.online, and for another, if I wanted I could have it cease sending me notifications for a comment that I made if people decide to relentlessly troll me for WEEKS and WEEKS afterwards (this is no mere hypothetical situation: both hexbear and Lemmygrad have done this exact thing to me). I can also view a post without having to read any comments at all from users posting from an instance of my own choosing - instance blocking is horrible misnamed on Lemmy and does next to nothing along those lines, while defederation is dependent upon an admin, except that PieFed puts that ability to choose into the hands of its users. That alone made me want to choose it, but everything else is does is great too! Caveat: so long as I can fall back onto Lemmy when I need to.
Also PieFed has next to no moderation tools, so there’s a lot that is still coming.:-) I am definitely here for it!:-)
Yeah I don’t think you quite got me. When you first start you choose topics you like and I would like to be able to go back and select more or deselect ones I previously selected. I really like what they seem to be trying to do but it is limited. You can join communities but not block them or block topics. This would be huge for me because I have no interest in sports so I block all sports communities but if I could block sports as a topic that would be really useful. I do like that they have the keyword thing. Especially short term. Sometimes something happens in the news and its like you don’t want the clutter from the barrage of articles.
I think that initial sign-up even if it mentioned that it was for topic areas, was actually joining you to communities? (Bc the actual “Topic” areas seems to be invariable) I mean, based on those Topic areas that you selected, it Joined you to Communities that will fill up your All feed.
You can now “leave” a community at any time, and while this doesn’t seem to block it from showing up in the Topic areas list - more’s the pity, bc it really should - it at least stops it from showing up in the All feed. And ofc you can (re-)join other Communities as well.
So as we are seeing, things tend to work slightly differently than Lemmy.:-) What I find helpful is how my entire “workflow” is different on it: since Lemmy doesn’t even offer Notifications for posts from communities, for those where there are only like 0-3 posts per day, I prefer receiving those Notifications rather than have to “find” the communities as I would have done in Lemmy. Like, this works much better than hoping that they show up in a Feed somewhere, especially when a community is small like !starwarsmemes@lemmy.world. Then again, this would work better for someone who checks things daily, although… there is a “Mark all as read” button as well.
On Lemmy I used to browse All rather than Subscribed, but on PieFed I usually use a combination of Notifications and rarely browsing All or like when I want a concentration of news stories (ahem, even from communities that I’ve “Left” even:-), then that is available as well. This whole aspect of PieFed really works much better for me overall, though indeed it took quite some getting used to it at first to discover what was possible and have to re-think my workflow. I hope this description helps you think through what may work best for you, or perhaps you’ll just copy this.:-)
Yah I wanna contribute alongside pugjesus
Please do so, it’s terribly lonely being the only poster some weeks DX
go for it, fam! Yeah, I think it’s a lot more fun to be posting when someone else is already posting there. (instead of just posting by yourself.)
I made a meme about this a while ago on !fedimemes@feddit.uk
Definitely still relevant
!fedigrow@lemm.ee help active posters to discuss common issues