Not my title! I do think we are being listened to. And location tracked. And it’s being passed on to advertisers. Is it apple though? Probably not is my take away from this article, but I don’t trust plenty of others, and apple still does

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    Instagram showed me an ad for a medical condition I only discussed out loud, in person, in my doctors office.

    Instagram was immediately uninstalled that day.

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      Other methods of data collection can be scarily effective. Stores have identified people were pregnant before they knew.

      Very likely they identified you as someone that could have that condition, and you noticing the ads after talking to your doctor is a form of recency bias.

      You can collect almost all the same data from traditional surveillance methods. Collecting and processing mocrophone data just isn’t effective enough to make up for the massively increased costs from processing it.

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        As much as I logically know this to be the case, especially now that Android and iOS indicate when things like the mic are active… My brain still wants to reject it because it is just too coincidental.

        I do not trust mic switches however, unless someone can provide proof that it physically disconnects the circuit to that microphone, it can be bypassed somewhere and there’s no reason to trust the manufacturer.

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        It displayed the ad before I could get home and research it. It had only been discussed out loud and in person.

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      I hate to add to the conspiracy, but I know my eye doctor uses a 3rd party which has sections of their hipaa privacy acceptance which allows them to use your info to sell you ads if you don’t decline. Phreesia, is the 3rd party company. Now add the other apps that track your location… time spent there…

      and I know my grocery store does the same when you use the discounts. and worse, they have facial recognition so I can’t even opt out (kroger).

      Your issue was likely a combo of that.

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      Your age group, sex, location, profession/industry, income estimation - you can assume they have this data.

      That + a few data points that could be tracked by apps or websites:

      • Searched online for symptoms
      • Searched for doctors
      • Called the clinic to schedule an appointment
      • GPS to the clinic
      • Connected to the clinic’s WiFi
      • Doctor is a specialist in X

      Cross some of that, personal info, and ads of treatments for conditions of X.

      They don’t need to listen to your mic.

      That said, if it’s a fairly common condition, it might be the case you were presented the ad before and never noticed it.

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        None of those data points apply. It was nothing I had searched for or spoken to anyone until I saw the doctor that day and the Instagram ad was present by the time I had driven home, specifically mentioning the clinical term mentioned by the doctor.

        It wasn’t even the stated reason for my visit, it was an afterthought at the end of the appointment… “Oh yeah, as long as I’m here, what is this…?”