What in the UX war crime is this for me to read an article. It’s like the polar opposite of for-profit media trying so hard that it’s just looped around on itself
Oh you even got the iWarning lol
What’s this warning thing? (for those of us far outside of the Apple ecosphere)
It’s basically an ad to tell people their phone isn’t private and they should buy a Purism phone
I did too, so, thanks, now I’m cackling at this racist bullshit:
It’s a Librem5 phone with cringe name and 100% markup, but it’s their own product nonetheless. I.e. it is not a generic Android with a custom skin and preinstalled apps like Trump Phone, Freedom Phone, or Quantum Internet box.
You can buy pretty much the same Librem5 assembled in China for ~$700. Take a look at Liberux Nexx Linux phone too (they are just staring out)
(Not sure what you’re calling racist here, appeal to “patriots”?)
The implication that Chinese-made goods are less private. Also I’m pretty sure most people speculate that the Trump phone is just a rebranded one of these? Guess we’ll just have to wait and see.
…racist? ive read that description in the screenshot twice. what part is specifically racist?
It’s just jingoistic drivel, same as all of Trump’s China crap. Implying the phone has better privacy because it’s made in the US.
but what specifically makes this racist? I’m failing to see any example of it in the text you initially showed.
The URL being puri.sm was what I noticed first
isnt that just a FOSS operating system for phones and tablets?
if its something more sinister, I’d be interested to learn it.
Vibes.
thank you for confirming that even you have no idea what the hell you’re actually angry about. that’s pretty funny.
good luck with whatever you think you’re fighting against 😅
so how is it racist?
Yes, your user agent detector is certainly working
I think Microsoft’s Windows 11 has done that far more effectively than any influencer
So glad that one of the largest youtubers is promoting Linux, FOSS and privacy :D
A lot of the times when people hear of Richard Stallman, or other people, who correctly state that all proprietary software is absolutely inexcusable, they feel pressured. Which makes them recoil and distance themselves from those types of ideas. If you need to suddenly re-learn the entire way you are using the computer, and you may have certain habits, or certain things you rely on, or enjoy very much, either games, or software, or in case of PewDiePie, the platform he is on. You will automatically feel like whatever these Stallmans are asking from you is so absurdly hard for you to do, that you don’t even consider it. More than that, to protect yourself from that hard work, you come up with a bunch of reasons, to not even engage in that idea. Which creates an opposition. And it is not something that we want.
It’s not just that, the overbearing FOSS mentality, from Stallmans corner of that world, is that you need to take a damn political position on software to be able to interact with other people that use it.
Which in itself is not actually true, but if you approach it like this with non-technical types then they will rightly and instinctively balk at both the software and you.
Bringing people to FOSS should be the same as bringing them to any other software, and if the ideology behind it is so self-evidently true then - by its own standard - it won’t need significant petitioning to convince them they should use more of it for ethical reasons as well as to meet their needs. This is software, not Amway. They’re trying to write a word document, not to join a cult.
The challenge is that we’re not just selling software, we’re selling an idea - the idea that users deserve control over their computing. We’re not competing on the proprietary software marketplace, we’re offering an alternative to it.
We are already seeing the proprietary software world enshittify. More and more “non-tech” people are looking for a way out. The challenge is to demonstrate that these problems are inherent to the world of proprietary software and not just because “Google is evil.”
Sure it’s a challenge, but it’s not necessary for getting people to use the software. One does not require the other, but it is a gateway to being able to do that.
It is self-evident that free software with open licensing and no strings attached is a superior and more beneficial ownership model than closed source paid licensing. That part I don’t think anyone needs to be convinced of.
It’s just not necessary to make that one of your core beliefs, or add several others, before using the software.
It is self-evident that free software with open licensing and no strings attached is a superior and more beneficial ownership model than closed source paid licensing. That part I don’t think anyone needs to be convinced of.
As someone who has both technical and nontechnical people in their family, I call bs. Even if it is partially self-evident (in the fact that you dont need to sign into an account or pay for it), the details, and more importantly the weight, of FOSS is often lost on people.
I’ve had to watch some of them walk into a rake and bruise their foreheads several times over before really absorbing it.
It’s something people need to really read up on before true comprehension. That, or get burnt really really badly.
Ideology? Politics? Tomato tomatoh in my eyes. At the very least, they’re nearly inseperable (think: DMCA, copyright law, etc.)
You’re platforming a genuine nazi. Shut.
yeah I had been wondering about that. has he done more nazi shit since making people say “Hitler was right” and Holocaust denial shit on fiver?
💀💀💀 are you fr rn
“Well, the nazi hasn’t done [extremely nazi shit] after public backlash without apology. So he’s not a nazi lol”
Please touch grass
The fact that PewDiePie might have a right-leaning following, that he acquired by himself leaning right, which he now exposes to Freedom, using Libre Software, might actually be a good thing. Since exposing yourself to the philosophy of Free Software eventually leads to human rights and thus to the left, in a way. If PewDiePie course-correcting to the left like this, taking his enormous subscriber-base with him, IMO it is very good.
There’s plenty of neo-nazis in the Free Software movement. It’s “Free Software”, not “Free People”
Idk. There’s already plenty of right wingers (libertarians) in FLOSS spaces. I’d hate to see any more.
I’m not saying that right means freedom but what makes you think that left means freedom?
Progressive idealogies espouse freedom for all not simply those with money.
Maybe the fact that the left supports improved working rights, unionisation, free education, equality of opportunities and between nations, freer borders for people…
Equality of opportunities for blacks and Latinos means discrimination for Asians. And people here wonder why Trump won votes from people who are not white men
“right leaning” is one hell of a way to describe a fucking outright neo nazi…
I see a few people keep saying that, but how so? What has he done that’s neo Nazis like? Not that I follow the guy or what he does so I may be missing things but the only controversy I can remember that could be considered Nazis like was when he paid some fiver people to make a video saying death to all Jews.
Now I get how that could be considered Nazi like but he said it was a joke and to show that people will do anything for money, and I believe him and thought the joke was funny. So I guess I’m a neo nazi too if that’s it. Obviously it’s a “bad” joke but but it was shocking in a funny way, atleast to me at the time. Given you’re from hexbear I figured you’d find it funny too
Look at my other post in this thread but also fuck you.
Saying nazi shit, enabler
“It was shocking in a funny way” violent racism and genocide is soooo funny lmao /s
There is evidence already in that video that suggests that he is starting to lean more left. Like he pointed out the ecological issues with AI. Even though he did say “I don’t like to be that guy” before saying that.
It seems like he is already doing some doubts and thinking that are signs of moving the left direction.
I’m trying to be the optimist here. If we want not just PewDiePie, but his subscribe-base to change sides, we need him to be extra careful and extra soft with this sort of change. He seem to know how to form good streams of thoughts and convincing narratives. This would take some serious carefulness on his part. And it seems like he is already taking small steps to do that.
I’m sorry no. He is not leaning more left he’s just an opportunistic crypto fascist.
I see him more as your typical edgelord who did enable a lot of shitty fascists, idk if he is an ideological fascist though.
He said the N word on stream, in a “heated gamer moment”. I have never ever said that word in private or otherwise, leading me to believe that is not his first time or last.
He paid poor people in India on fiver to hold a sign saying “kill the jews”
In his apology video he wore a shirt with a fucking iron cross on the collar.
He is a Nazi and to continue to hem and haw about whether he is or isn’t is exactly what crypto fascist losers like him want you to do.
PewDiePie is a Nazi. Stop carrying water for Nazis.
He also used to follow a ton of open white supremacist NAZIS on Twitter like Laura Southern and that guy who got punched in the face. People screenshotted it and he noticed and privated his follows. That was many years ago. But you don’t follow open Nazis if you’re just some gamer dude (if he was some sort of respectable journalist you could have an excuse of having a newsworthiness angle but he followed them because he liked their posts because he is a NAZI).
I think he’s more greedy than committed to bringing about Nazi goals so is somewhat careful about not exposing too much of that part of himself but he’s part of the white supremacist gamergate to white supremacist streamers pipeline and should be called a Nazi until they day he 1) admits he was a Nazi, 2) disavows that. 3) disavows other Nazi gamer streamers who exist in his “edgelord space” 4) becomes openly progressive and goes out of his way to denounce and attack fascists and white supremacy. Until that day he should be assumed to still be a Nazi.
i feel like you missed the time between 1990 and 2005 when american libertarians caused a schism in the free software movement by popularising open source.
You got a problem with open source? In /c/opensource?
i’ve got a problem with what ESR calls open source.
like, the fact that free software is inherently political has been explored elsewhere in the thread, but the term “open source” was started by people who wanted to distance themselves from the free software movement due to them disliking that it was anti-commercial. the open source movement wanted more companies to adopt their code, in contrast to the GNU people trying to stop their work being absorbed into the old big iron.
and they won.
The Free Software movement wasn’t really anti-commercial, they explicitly allow commercial purposes as part of the freedoms to protect, it’s part of the first freedoom they defend, “freedom zero”.
And it’s not like the open source movement wasn’t inherently political either… wanting more companies to join the movement is actually a political position.
But also, it’s not like the Free Software movement didn’t want to have more companies adopt their philosophy… they did want that, I mean that would have been awesome if it had happened. And when possible the FSF has actively tried to convince companies to get on board, they even have run programs to help companies promote themselves as certified by the FSF, such as the “Respects Your Freedom (RYF)” certification.
What makes the Free Software movement different is that they actively see proprietary software as evil. They see freedom as a right, something mandatory, not something to merely be “open” to. Going out of your way to not use closed source software, to the point of crippling yourself digitally if necessary, is then the ethically correct behavior. Whereas the “open source” movement sees it more as an option, something that can be useful but not strictly necessary, they wont consider it inherently bad/evil to use proprietary.
This is akin to someone considering buying ethically sourced shoes as something optional vs considering it a moral obligation so as to not be complicit to evil practices. Or say… saving energy being an option that might be convenient for you personally vs a moral obligation with the planet.
The business model at the time for most commercial projects was based on offering software as a product, not as a service, so they didn’t want to release their code. When eventually the shift towards services started to happen, companies gravitated towards the “open” side because it allowed them to take advantage of free software while retaining proprietary software for those situations in which it benefited them, without being flagged as “evil” by the same community they were working with.
I have asked a few times why PDP deserves all the hate. The best answer I got is “look it up yourself”. I did, and the only things I found were many years old, and in each instance (of which there aren’t that many) he apologized publicly and acknowledged that things got out of hand. To me, his apologies seem sincere and genuine - none of that “I’m sorry I got caught” bullshit that actual scumbags are known for.
I don’t watch PewDiePie but he’s alright best I can tell. If I’ve missed something, please let me know what that is, and be specific because I genuinely can’t find it.
I heard he’s Hated cause he’s a Nazi apparently.
That’s not a claim to make without some evidence. There is a thing he did a long time ago on fiverr, and from my POV that does not reflect on his views at all. I can explain my reasoning if you want. Other than that incident, is there any other reason to suspect he’s a Nazi?
https://www.vox.com/culture/2017/2/17/14613234/pewdiepie-nazi-satire-alt-right
He has repeatedly and overtly used Nazi imagery, made a multitude of “jokes” like this:
Mr. Kjellberg says the material is portrayed in jest. He showed a clip from a Hitler speech in a Sept. 24 video criticizing a YouTube policy, posted swastikas drawn by his fans on Oct. 15 and watched a Hitler video in a brown military uniform to conclude a Dec. 8 video. He also played the Nazi Party anthem before bowing to a swastika in a mock resurrection ritual on Jan. 14, and included a very brief Nazi salute with a Hitler voice-over saying “Sieg Heil” and the text “Nazi Confirmed” near the beginning of a Feb. 5 video.
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In addition to more overt Nazi symbolism, Kjellberg makes references to the alt-right that are veiled but obvious if you know where to look. In one video from late August, he makes an extended racist joke comparing Harambe the gorilla to Saturday Night Live and Ghostbusters actress and comedian Leslie Jones, echoing the widespread politically tinged, racist harassment that Jones endured last summer, largely from the alt-right.
And in another video from November, Kjellberg overlays a swastika, along with audio of a speech from Hitler, over unrelated commentary about clickbait YouTube channels. He then goes on to refer to BuzzFeed as “a bunch of cucks” — “cuck” being an alt-right buzzword.
Has nothing new has come up since 2017-2018?
Absolutely true for the time the article was written (2017). He changed his ways after the Christchurch attacks which happened in 2019.
He has stated his favourite author is a Japanese fascist who wanted to restore the emperor, Yukio Mishima, who tried to do a coup and killed himself when he failed.
But I’m sure he just likes the guy for his prose, and has no particular fixation or interest in Nazi and fascist imagery and politics.
When did he state this? Recently?
