Mamdani, the presumptive Democratic nominee to be the next mayor of New York and a self-identified democratic socialist, said Sunday billionaires contribute to inequality.
I’m pro LGBTQ, anti-israel, against consumerism/capitalism, pro socialism. Pro government control on key infrastructure (water, gas, electricity) and better housing and support services. Pro climate policies, pro taxing the rich.
But I’m also against fossil fuel bans, against bans on firearms, pro military for defence, pro free-speech, pro strict immigration, against ‘PC’ culture, against trans-women in women’s sports, pro merit success.
I agree with a lot of points in the video on trans-athletes. I wonder if the meta-study that I’ve been refering to was one of the studies mentioned, and there certainly needs to be more research into the topic to settle the matter for good. I think social and low stake competition should most certainly be non restricted especially for kids, the fact they are restricted in some places is obscene. But I’m still on the fence with professional and Olympic level sports. The part that currently holds me back from changing stance, is how many Olympic sports have either banned or heavily restricted participation. Perhaps they are in the wrong themselves but I suspect they are being cautious until more studies have confirmed one way or the other. Overall, I certainly don’t hold my view in high regard and I’m just waiting for more evidence, but like I said, anything other than professional or Olympic shouldn’t be restricted at all, any strength difference there is negligible.
With the guns part I agree with everything mentioned. I don’t think a free gun ownership system like what America has, is a smart idea. My country is very restrictive which is why I dislike the idea of completely banning them. Where I am, even the plastic toy guns were made illegal. Only if you live on a farm and need to protect livestock or produce, then you’re allowed to own some. Good thing is, no mass shootings here and only some gun crime. It would be nice if tough but fair licensing was more-so available, but nothing like America.
I’ll try substantiating the last paragraph without it getting too long. Fossil fuel bans are just not possible at the moment and even when it is, there will likely be some things we will never replace, even backup generators when black outs happen for hospitals. Making it really expensive and hard to acquire should be all that’s needed. Military for defence because I don’t think the world will be truely at peace for a while longer. Free-speech so ideas don’t go suppressed, but that doesn’t mean people have to respect that free-speech. Strict immigration to bring in valuable skills not just people (pronounced problem where I am). ‘PC’ culture ties into free speech but also reducing diversity hires (not requiring names and personal information in hiring to make such decisions truely unbias would be a better solution). Keeping some merit success with a socialist system to reward people to achieve more.
But I’m still on the fence with professional and Olympic level sports.
At that level you have lots of money involved, which means, among other things, steroids, corruption and lack of sportsmanship (oh gee maybe it’s sportspersonship now…). So, really, not what i would consider sport so i don’t give a damn; they can all “compete” with llamas for all i care.
On everything else, it’s a sport, you’re doing it for sport, so who cares?
Of course some cultures are more competitive than others.
backup generators when black outs happen for hospitals
Good point.
Making it really expensive and hard to acquire should be all that’s needed.
All that ever does is limit access to the rich.
Free-speech so ideas don’t go suppressed,
Bare in mind that in english (especially murican english culture), “free-speech” is often used as “i can say whatever i want, including bigoted shit”. I do see a significant increase in the number of easily-offended people in the last decade, must be a generational thing.
make such decisions truely unbias
No such thing, there’s always a bias, but trying to minimize it is indeed a good goal imho.
Keeping some merit success with a socialist system to reward people to achieve more.
I’d say places where merit is actually and properly valued are few and far between.
And “socialist” red-scares muricans.
In women’s sport, I just don’t think it’s fair to women to compete against trans-women* who are stronger than them. I only beleive that out of fairness, but I think people have every right to do what they want with their bodies and be accepted for who they are.
Where another person’s rights begin, another’s ends type of thing.
** EDIT: Clarifycation of ‘trans-women’ at the astrick, was just ‘women’ before
You’re right, it’s completely unfair for women to compete against women who are stronger than them. For the weightlifting they should test every woman’s strength, and only the weakest woman competes. That’s fair.
and,
We definitely shouldn’t let trans women compete in women’s chess, because of the biological advantage/s
After 12 months: In studies which recorded the retained muscle mass/strength, there was an average of 25% residual advantage for transgender women at 12 months treatment compared with reference a group of females. After 12 months of testosterone suppression, transgender women remained 48% stronger, with 35% larger quadriceps mass compared with the control population of females.
After more than two years of follow-up on testosterone suppression recent research citing retrospective data from military personnel in the US has shown that transgender women retain an advantage in running speed, at a residual of some 12% faster than the known normative values for females.
What is your opinion on this, truely? This organisation literally supports trans-women being in sport but has to admit that they are uniquely stronger and faster than born-women. It’s an unfortunate reality but I personally believe that we can support transgender women without disenfranchising born-women. I’m just being pragmatic about it.
And for clarifycation, I don’t think there should be classes in chess.
No, it is what you said. It’s just not what you mean. It’s not my fault the two are separate. It’s your responsibility to speak clearly if you don’t want the silly things you say to be mocked.
There are a number of other genes linked to athletic outcomes that are way more influential than “12% above average”. Steroid usage is rampant in top teir sports for instance and people with like genetic kidney conditions that overproduce some hormones have a far greater advantage.
The people doing the sports should be making the rules about sports, not a bunch of armchair theorists with calipers. Most the guys who have A LOT OF OPINIONS on how to gatekeep womens sports don’t actually watch any women’s sports.
The second greatest contributing gene related to strength and fast twitch responses ACE I/D, has so far inconclusive results.
I’d be interested in hearing if there are more genes I’m unaware about.
Yeah, stereroid usage is not fair across the board, which is why before competition in every sport it is already tested for. Although it does slip under the radar. Likewise in some sports trans-women are tested before competing such as in soccer, and there are quite a few that, unfortunately, has banned them from playing entirely.
I am only for fairness, not for exclusion. The ideal world in my opinion, would be fair to everybody.
That’s apples to oranges. There’s almost no elite trans athletes. Elite athlete times are very close vs somewhat average people playing lower level sports where you can get a large enough sample size of trans athletes to make statistics.
You’re not for fairness, you’re for “fairness but only when trans people are involved”
If somebody was like “oh we should have a separate league for people with breathing disorders” you wouldn’t spend 1/1000 of the time on that question even though asthma affects a far larger percentage of the population and it is associated with what, 20% lower athletic outcomes?
Trans women were allowed to compete in the Olympics in 2004. That’s 21 years ago. Six olympics.
The Paris Olympics had 11,040 athletes. The Athens Olympics had 10,600. Let’s average those for 10,800 and say 64,8000 athletes competed in the Summer Olympics since trans women were allowed.
Only one transgender athlete has ever won an Olympic medal. Their name is Quinn, they’re a soccer player from Canada. And they were born female. They won two medals.
So the percentage of trans people in the general population is 1%, the percentage of Olympic athletes who are trans and won a medal is 0.0015%, and the percentage of Olympic athletes who were born male and won a medal in the women’s league is 0.0000%.
What you should be understanding from these figures is that trans women will never dominate sporting events of any kind. We suck at sports because we’re all big nerds. Any trans person who is good at sports is a freak.
Let’s take the obvious “Pro military for defense” first since that’s the most insane thing to think is a contentious political issue.
There are 30% of people in the US that think aliens are real and have visited their asshole but you will not find 5% of people in america that oppose the military as a concept.
What you’re doing here is being manipulated by people who want you to think some of these things are Important Issues™
The trans women in sports is a great example of propaganda. It was cooked up by a conservative think tank. How many people are affected by this “problem”? Maybe 200? And in most cases sports organizations themselves often have rules in place like “how long you’d have to have been on hormone therapy to qualify.” That is already more or less a solved problem for most the people it actually affects. People playing sports didnt come up with the “trans people in sports issue”, a think tank did.
So what you are …is manipulated by think tanks and propaganda and in a way that causes you to oppose people who otherwise have common interests with you.
There’s only two real political philosophies and they can be summed up as “fuck you, I got mine” and “we’re all in this together.” I will tell you right now only the “fuck you, I got mine” group has any real interest in dehumanizing people by say, having the government ban trans people from public spaces and public activities like sports.
And yet the comments and downvotes shows how contentious it is which I knew it would be when I wrote it.
Probably extra contentious because it’s trans discrimination on Pride weekend. And there’s the fact that some research (backed by the International Olympic Committee) suggests that trans-women may perform worse than cis-women.
Even if more research comes out that shows otherwise (entirely possible considering that it’s hard to get a decent sample population of elite trans athletes as there are so few), discrimination is not a solution. The simplest solution would be to get rid of gendered leagues and group athletes by measureable athletic abilities. Probably would make most people with an actual vested interest happy, with exception of those who want to keep paying women less.
I know the trans-women in sport issue is almost non-existent but it’s probably the biggest talking point in the comments it seems.
Not to surprising, since it is a standpoint that lays the foundation for oppressing and dehumanising one of the most vulnerable groups if society.
First it was just Trans people in sport, then it is trans people in bathrooms and the next step is eradicating trans peoples existence from public spaces.
The only point I was making was for fair competition in women’s sport, and broader still that centrist exist with non black and white opinions.
I believe we are as a society, getting better at accepting people. In my country we’re decently accepting I think, although there is still the intolerant person here and there. Overall I do hope one day everyone is accepting of everyone else.
I cited a study before that trans-women retain around 12% of the strength they had previously even with blockers in place. So it is still technically, not fair.
Although there may be more research that I’m reading about that someone metioned, in which case my opinion may change but the research is still somewhat inconclusive and requires more evidence.
Huh!? This isn’t a troll, I’m an example of a centrist. The term ‘centrist’ exists for a reason, and plenty of people such as myself think this way although I will admit, I have met very few unfortunately.
“Centrist” is just a masquerade for Republicrats to pretend to still be on the left.
I’m pro LGBTQ, anti-israel, against consumerism/capitalism, pro socialism. Pro government control on key infrastructure (water, gas, electricity) and better housing and support services. Pro climate policies, pro taxing the rich.
But I’m also against fossil fuel bans, against bans on firearms, pro military for defence, pro free-speech, pro strict immigration, against ‘PC’ culture, against trans-women in women’s sports, pro merit success.
Am I left or right? …Or centrist?
Judging by the down-votes : not-left.
On trans athletes: it’s a non-issue.
On guns: these three videos always spring to mind.
Can you substantiate the remainder of your last paragraph a bit?
Those are some great linked videos.
I agree with a lot of points in the video on trans-athletes. I wonder if the meta-study that I’ve been refering to was one of the studies mentioned, and there certainly needs to be more research into the topic to settle the matter for good. I think social and low stake competition should most certainly be non restricted especially for kids, the fact they are restricted in some places is obscene. But I’m still on the fence with professional and Olympic level sports. The part that currently holds me back from changing stance, is how many Olympic sports have either banned or heavily restricted participation. Perhaps they are in the wrong themselves but I suspect they are being cautious until more studies have confirmed one way or the other. Overall, I certainly don’t hold my view in high regard and I’m just waiting for more evidence, but like I said, anything other than professional or Olympic shouldn’t be restricted at all, any strength difference there is negligible.
With the guns part I agree with everything mentioned. I don’t think a free gun ownership system like what America has, is a smart idea. My country is very restrictive which is why I dislike the idea of completely banning them. Where I am, even the plastic toy guns were made illegal. Only if you live on a farm and need to protect livestock or produce, then you’re allowed to own some. Good thing is, no mass shootings here and only some gun crime. It would be nice if tough but fair licensing was more-so available, but nothing like America.
I’ll try substantiating the last paragraph without it getting too long. Fossil fuel bans are just not possible at the moment and even when it is, there will likely be some things we will never replace, even backup generators when black outs happen for hospitals. Making it really expensive and hard to acquire should be all that’s needed. Military for defence because I don’t think the world will be truely at peace for a while longer. Free-speech so ideas don’t go suppressed, but that doesn’t mean people have to respect that free-speech. Strict immigration to bring in valuable skills not just people (pronounced problem where I am). ‘PC’ culture ties into free speech but also reducing diversity hires (not requiring names and personal information in hiring to make such decisions truely unbias would be a better solution). Keeping some merit success with a socialist system to reward people to achieve more.
At that level you have lots of money involved, which means, among other things, steroids, corruption and lack of sportsmanship (oh gee maybe it’s sportspersonship now…). So, really, not what i would consider sport so i don’t give a damn; they can all “compete” with llamas for all i care.
On everything else, it’s a sport, you’re doing it for sport, so who cares?
Of course some cultures are more competitive than others.
Good point.
All that ever does is limit access to the rich.
Bare in mind that in english (especially murican english culture), “free-speech” is often used as “i can say whatever i want, including bigoted shit”. I do see a significant increase in the number of easily-offended people in the last decade, must be a generational thing.
No such thing, there’s always a bias, but trying to minimize it is indeed a good goal imho.
I’d say places where merit is actually and properly valued are few and far between.
And “socialist” red-scares muricans.
Right
In women’s sport, I just don’t think it’s fair to women to compete against trans-women* who are stronger than them. I only beleive that out of fairness, but I think people have every right to do what they want with their bodies and be accepted for who they are.
Where another person’s rights begin, another’s ends type of thing.
** EDIT: Clarifycation of ‘trans-women’ at the astrick, was just ‘women’ before
You’re right, it’s completely unfair for women to compete against women who are stronger than them. For the weightlifting they should test every woman’s strength, and only the weakest woman competes. That’s fair.
and,
We definitely shouldn’t let trans women compete in women’s chess, because of the biological advantage/s
That is not what I am saying. You’re trying to make an enemy out of me when I am not, it’s almost a strawmans argument you just made.
https://womeninsport.org/transgender-inclusion-womens-sport/
What is your opinion on this, truely? This organisation literally supports trans-women being in sport but has to admit that they are uniquely stronger and faster than born-women. It’s an unfortunate reality but I personally believe that we can support transgender women without disenfranchising born-women. I’m just being pragmatic about it.
And for clarifycation, I don’t think there should be classes in chess.
No, it is what you said. It’s just not what you mean. It’s not my fault the two are separate. It’s your responsibility to speak clearly if you don’t want the silly things you say to be mocked.
Could you quote me and break down your understanding of what I said?
I don’t necessarily feel mocked, are you trying to mock me?
Also you didn’t respond to the study still?
There are a number of other genes linked to athletic outcomes that are way more influential than “12% above average”. Steroid usage is rampant in top teir sports for instance and people with like genetic kidney conditions that overproduce some hormones have a far greater advantage.
The people doing the sports should be making the rules about sports, not a bunch of armchair theorists with calipers. Most the guys who have A LOT OF OPINIONS on how to gatekeep womens sports don’t actually watch any women’s sports.
https://bmcgenomics.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12864-016-2462-3
The greatest researched gene for sprint times measures just less than a percent of influence at 0.92%
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2984550
The second greatest contributing gene related to strength and fast twitch responses ACE I/D, has so far inconclusive results.
I’d be interested in hearing if there are more genes I’m unaware about.
Yeah, stereroid usage is not fair across the board, which is why before competition in every sport it is already tested for. Although it does slip under the radar. Likewise in some sports trans-women are tested before competing such as in soccer, and there are quite a few that, unfortunately, has banned them from playing entirely.
I am only for fairness, not for exclusion. The ideal world in my opinion, would be fair to everybody.
That’s apples to oranges. There’s almost no elite trans athletes. Elite athlete times are very close vs somewhat average people playing lower level sports where you can get a large enough sample size of trans athletes to make statistics.
You’re not for fairness, you’re for “fairness but only when trans people are involved”
If somebody was like “oh we should have a separate league for people with breathing disorders” you wouldn’t spend 1/1000 of the time on that question even though asthma affects a far larger percentage of the population and it is associated with what, 20% lower athletic outcomes?
Trans women were allowed to compete in the Olympics in 2004. That’s 21 years ago. Six olympics.
The Paris Olympics had 11,040 athletes. The Athens Olympics had 10,600. Let’s average those for 10,800 and say 64,8000 athletes competed in the Summer Olympics since trans women were allowed.
Only one transgender athlete has ever won an Olympic medal. Their name is Quinn, they’re a soccer player from Canada. And they were born female. They won two medals.
So the percentage of trans people in the general population is 1%, the percentage of Olympic athletes who are trans and won a medal is 0.0015%, and the percentage of Olympic athletes who were born male and won a medal in the women’s league is 0.0000%.
What you should be understanding from these figures is that trans women will never dominate sporting events of any kind. We suck at sports because we’re all big nerds. Any trans person who is good at sports is a freak.
Let’s take the obvious “Pro military for defense” first since that’s the most insane thing to think is a contentious political issue.
There are 30% of people in the US that think aliens are real and have visited their asshole but you will not find 5% of people in america that oppose the military as a concept.
What you’re doing here is being manipulated by people who want you to think some of these things are Important Issues™
The trans women in sports is a great example of propaganda. It was cooked up by a conservative think tank. How many people are affected by this “problem”? Maybe 200? And in most cases sports organizations themselves often have rules in place like “how long you’d have to have been on hormone therapy to qualify.” That is already more or less a solved problem for most the people it actually affects. People playing sports didnt come up with the “trans people in sports issue”, a think tank did.
So what you are …is manipulated by think tanks and propaganda and in a way that causes you to oppose people who otherwise have common interests with you.
There’s only two real political philosophies and they can be summed up as “fuck you, I got mine” and “we’re all in this together.” I will tell you right now only the “fuck you, I got mine” group has any real interest in dehumanizing people by say, having the government ban trans people from public spaces and public activities like sports.
And yet the comments and downvotes shows how contentious it is which I knew it would be when I wrote it.
I know the trans-women in sport issue is almost non-existent but it’s probably the biggest talking point in the comments it seems.
Personally I agree with you. I always vote left and am more of a “we’re in in together” mindset.
Either way, thank you for you insight!
Says the person who brought it up.
It was simpily an argument for me being centrist and therefore legitimate centrist existing.
It clearly worked in demonstrating what a centrists opinions are like and no one has so far argued I fall on one side or the other.
Sure. just bring up divisive right wing talking points. And then call yourself a centrist.
It tracks.
And what about my left wing opinions? Would the right wing accept me or would they be as friendly as you lot are?
You’re asking us to accept bigoted opinions and threatening to go to the right like you weren’t there already.
Probably extra contentious because it’s trans discrimination on Pride weekend. And there’s the fact that some research (backed by the International Olympic Committee) suggests that trans-women may perform worse than cis-women.
Even if more research comes out that shows otherwise (entirely possible considering that it’s hard to get a decent sample population of elite trans athletes as there are so few), discrimination is not a solution. The simplest solution would be to get rid of gendered leagues and group athletes by measureable athletic abilities. Probably would make most people with an actual vested interest happy, with exception of those who want to keep paying women less.
Not to surprising, since it is a standpoint that lays the foundation for oppressing and dehumanising one of the most vulnerable groups if society.
First it was just Trans people in sport, then it is trans people in bathrooms and the next step is eradicating trans peoples existence from public spaces.
Which is very sad and I’m not for that.
The only point I was making was for fair competition in women’s sport, and broader still that centrist exist with non black and white opinions.
I believe we are as a society, getting better at accepting people. In my country we’re decently accepting I think, although there is still the intolerant person here and there. Overall I do hope one day everyone is accepting of everyone else.
Thanks for your thoughts though.
On the internet?! Impossible!|
Which you don’t seem to have researched, or you would have known about the standards already in place to keep competition fair.
I cited a study before that trans-women retain around 12% of the strength they had previously even with blockers in place. So it is still technically, not fair.
Although there may be more research that I’m reading about that someone metioned, in which case my opinion may change but the research is still somewhat inconclusive and requires more evidence.
And until then, you side with anti-trans bigots.
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You sound like an Idiot to me.
Not very helpful, why is that?
Because lemmy isn’t reddit and as a result has little patience for anti-trans bigotry.
You’re a liar, that’s what you are. Can’t even properly set up the troll.
Huh!? This isn’t a troll, I’m an example of a centrist. The term ‘centrist’ exists for a reason, and plenty of people such as myself think this way although I will admit, I have met very few unfortunately.
What makes me seem like a liar?
Yeah, it gives conservatives something to call themselves on dating sites.