• mang0@lemmy.zip
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      2 months ago

      The amount of people who voted republican completely obliterates the tiny fraction of people who abstained from voting democrat. How about directing focus where it’s relevant?

      • Chloé 🥕@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        2 months ago

        yeah but then how could libs feel smugly superior?

        they’d rather blame the tiny fraction of people with principles rather than the third of the country that is actively fascist, because politically, they’re closer to the fascists

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          Because they are the ones that knew but chose to play some bullshit game instead of putting their shit aside for the reality they knew was there but just made them feel uncomfortable.

          Its actually way worse in that way then the republicans who are nearly impossible to blame as they were and some still are totally convinced a fantasy reality was actually there at that time and can’t be held as accountable by blaming as much as they see it as a personal attack and it vindicates them if not put in language they understand.

          Tell the republicans to fuck themselves and it helps to remind them they’re supporting a pedo and a warmongerer. Hold them accountable with specifics actions he’s done against them and why its bad. Not a general you shouldn’t have voted for him because fantasyland reasoning

          You have to do their thinking for them entirely I’m learning, its like drugs, theyre addicted to people thinking for them, have to get them a healthy alternative to get them weaned so they can fend for themselves afterwards but not before that happens

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            2 months ago

            play some bullshit game

            Oh I know this one, its the two party system pretending to be a democracy right?

            But I am things are bad because the wrong team is in power, and if they turn out to be great it is all due to the brave right team. But hey good thing you are there to “do their thinking for them entirely”!

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          There’s been polling analysis that showed if you forced everyone to vote then Harris would have lost to Trump by an even bigger margin due to the unpopularity of the administration at the time. Nonvoters didn’t make a difference. Michigan was won by Trump by a bigger margin than all college students or Arabs or Muslims or any other minority group in the state.

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            2 months ago

            I think you’re trying to assign blame. Again, I am informing non-protest-voters what they voted for.

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              2 months ago

              That’s not what they voted for.

              It’s a weird world where you blame the public for not voting for a flawed candidate rather than the candidate for not being flawed. It’s like blaming an audience for not laughing at the comedian on stage.

              Harris made a conscious choice to avoid pandering to certain constituencies (in hopes it would pay off by gaining conflicted Republican voters) and that gamble went wrong as people warned it would.

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                2 months ago

                you blame

                Funny that you are still coming back almost 2 weeks later, only to ignore what I said, and continue on.

                And called it, you are trying assign blame. So again, I am informing protest-non-voters what they voted for. Ciao.

    • PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org
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      AmeriKKKa is uniparty on foreign policy. This exact outcome would have happened under a Harris administration, except they would have kept up the kayfabe, so I would have had to spend hours debating with shitlibs like you that this war is in fact just about oil.

      If you wanna play “shame Olympics”, liberals should be fucking ashamed for losing to the fucking fascists twice, giving the keys of the kingdom to the fascist twice, doing fucking nothing with their political power every time they had it, and barely even pretending to offer a political program worth fighting for.

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            2 months ago

            Trump, of course, being so much better.

            Pragmatism beats principles every day of the week. The problem is it makes weak-willed people scared.

            • PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org
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              Yes, pragmatically speaking, voting for Biden does absolutely fucking nothing to alleviate any of the problems faced by the working class. It doesn’t affect the onward progression of capitalism, it doesn’t stop the racists from controlling the government, doesn’t stop the cops from murdering black people, doesn’t stop the erasure of LGBTQIA lives, doesn’t do anything.

              The pragmatic options are to first stabilize your own situation, and then organize popular resistance and do direct actions if you have the bandwidth.