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No I did not read what it was 69 of

I mean anything can be a toilet if you’re brave enough

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Then do it. I never said anything about not planning or a blaze of glory.

You said “Buy a gun and sacrifice” but without any discussion of what to actually do with those guns. Maybe I read too much into your words, I’ll cop to that, but it felt like you were implying that buying guns and nebulously “sacrificing” are the solutions. My point is that we need to actually do stuff with those guns and our sacrifices.

And strictly speaking, I did not say that you said those things. By your logic, I could accuse you of putting words in my mouth…but it’s more likely you are just trying to read the subtext of what I said, which is absolutely reasonable.

People standing for humanity don’t give a shit about your political system or nation.

Okay fine boycott us I literally don’t care, I fucking hate this country…but to do accurate climate research, you need climate data from across the globe, right? I mean sure you could interpolate the missing data, but would that be physically accurate? Probably not.

The way you people talk your talk is just as bullshit as the methods of the right.

No lol, leftists are incredibly rare in this country so even when we do go out and do stuff, it gets drowned out by liberals and liberal media. Like there are absolutely people arming themselves, doing mutual aid, protesting, doing direct actions, etc., but the culture here is working against us.

Like the Mafia boss ain’t shit if he’s alone. Under that metaphor, there just aren’t many mafiosos around here.

Like I literally do not disagree with your commentary about US-American culture and I am perfectly willing to let you vent at me about my neighbors and even myself, but you’re missing the forest for the trees here. This isn’t a W for you. It just sucks for everyone.

Are you talking to me, or at me to US-Americans at large?

No? Everyone else doesn’t deserve access to US-American climate data? Because even if US-Americans all unilaterally deserve the worst, then what about the innocent people the empire has damned to a climate-related death?

Buy guns and sacrifice.

This is individualistic thinking. I absolutely support armed insurrection against the US government, but we gotta organize, we gotta gather support, we gotta get the masses involved in their own liberation.

Individualistic tactics by those with high risk tolerances need to be complemented by collectivist actions.

It’s just not as simple as “buy a gun and go out in a blaze of glory”.

Okay but what about everyone else? Because they’re not getting that data either.

And what about US-American climate scientists? Like the climate scientists are not to blame for this.

Be kind to people, be ruthless to systems.

They’re the same picture

I want to believe

I didn’t say anything about political statements, I mentioned violent statements.

Politics is already violence. For example, even though no gunshots are going to be fired, millions of vulnerable US-Americans are about to lose their state medical insurance. What is this if not social murder?

Politics is systematic social violence, but it is structured in such a way that the systemic aspects are abstracted away from all individuals.

anyone who can’t express the latter without the former should, generally, expect to be censured (and censored).

I reject this notion. For example, I support stopping the IDF from committing the genocide of Palestine. Do I support stopping them peacefully? Of course it would be fantastic if we could peacefully get them to stop what they’re doing, but…this would have to happen immediately, since every moment of every day the IDF is continuously destroying Palestinians. Said differently: we could only afford to work at the pace of liberal democracy if that pace was immediate.

This should not be even remotely controversial!

Like be serious for a minute: would you have a problem if Jews living under Nazi regimes and their allies said “Death to the Wehrmacht”? Well with 80 years of hindsight of course you would now not have a problem with that. But since it’s happening now in Palestine and on a smaller scale than the Nazi Holocaust, you’re having problems with coarse violent opposition rhetoric because you haven’t successfully learned to apply the lessons of the Holocaust to current events!

You have exhibited subsets of the working class, only some of which are obsessed with bullying. But even if for charitability’s sake we assume that all those subsets are hypothetically obsessed with bullying…you have not presented (1) a set of subsets that covers the entire working class, or (2) a mode of causality to suggest why this is a feature of the working class systemically, i.e. a reason why such a covering exists.

Chanting “death, death to the IDF” is violent and inappropriate at a music festival. “Fuck the IDF” would’ve been fine though.

No it’s not. Mass music festivals are perfectly acceptable places to make political statements. This has been done for generations now, i.e. Rage Against the Machine.

And when we say “Death, death to the IDF”, we are accurately talking about the IDF like the monsters they are. For a scathing rebuke of respectability politics, I defer to this essay:

I am so fucking mad, sad, angry, and enraged at the actions of the elite and the hateful reality they’ve structured; that the only honest way to express my emotions is to wave a giant neon hatecock in the face of these hypocritical lying shitmongers. I don’t care if they hear me – they would never care, even if I was “respectable.” But they can’t fucking ignore me. They can’t fucking look away. They can only shake their head and claim, ever more shrilly as our world spirals deeper into shit, that “You’ll never convince a moderate with that language!” Fuck you. I don’t want to convince moderates. I want to fucking change shit. I want to inspire people, to get them angry. And if that offends you, if my anger, my emotions, my rage at getting fucked over, over and over and over again, bothers you? Take a step back, and think about what you truly value. Is it the messenger? Or the message?

Lol. This is a past time of *individuals in every class, equally.

It is not, in fact, a pastime of every class equally. Considering that the capitalist class makes their entire living from controlling and intimidating workers into doing actual work for them, the capitalist class systemically and explicitly spends their whole lives bullying others and being so rich that bullying people is all they ever have to worry about. Obviously we have working class individuals who suck too, but bullying others is not a systemic feature of the working class.

Evidence?