In the US it costs $100 an oz to manufacturer (just to get it into the bottle). It is crazy that having the gov manufacture it can reduce costs so much. Probably a poster child for single payer.

Thanks for this! Starting to get my head around it 😃

I mean, it isn’t cancer, but I have a family member that will need IVIG infusions every 2 weeks for the rest of their life (25+ years). Here they are ~$10k each one. I know it is like 1/3 of the price outside the US, but would something costly like that be covered without limitations?

(I’m just curious how things tactically work out)

Edit: I realize that my perspective is a very US consumer one. We feel entitled to whatever we can pay for (and when it’s free, like a buffet, it can be a lot). It is a pretty big mind shift to move from whatever you want to pay for even if it isnt practical to what you need. Anyhoo, this got me thinking and adjusting my expectations. 😃

I don’t have good line of sight into what happens outside of the US, but are cancer treatments unlimited for those in single payer systems? Even if the person requires treatment for years? Just wondering how it works (forgive my ignorance)!

I work with clients in this region, who are connected to the energy industry. It is fascinating to see this work from an outside perspective.

Maybe they should warn the healthcare executives not to be such terrible people.

I assume there will be a Go Fund Me for his legal fees…

Totally agree. In 2000, during the hanging chad debacle, I had a philosophy professor completely shift our class to the philosophy of voting. I found it endlessly fascinating and opened my thinking around voting. Here’s some good info on the topic: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/voting-methods/.

I’d pay $500 for a video of him saying “I’m a disgraced weirdo.”

Then they aren’t really about efficiency, are they? When properly set up, WFH for office work is very effective and efficient.

Also, vote for levies to fund local schools.

Maybe it is because of this: https://www.reuters.com/legal/us-supreme-court-lets-246-billion-boy-scouts-sex-abuse-settlement-proceed-2024-02-22/

To be fair, he was convicted of many felonies. It would be irresponsible not to.

I got school credit working at McDonalds. You learn all sorts of stuff, like how to show up on time (something I was shocked I would have to later teach people as a manager) and I personally learned the phrase “you got time to lean, you got time to clean” (which I use to this day to irritate my children). Obviously, no child should be put into a dangerous job, but you do lean some things by actually experiencing the work environment. And construction is a legit, respectable job/career that (if done right/safely) a teen could learn a lot from.

That’s how it should be - and is another excellent gesture of good will. But, based on a quick search, it looks like each of the 20 senior execs makes ~$2m/year (in cash, they get stocks too, but those don’t cost the company anything). If you halved their salaries, it would be ~$675/year for each of the 33k striking machinists - and does not totally bridge the gap to meet union requests. It also would omit SPEEA. But I agree, there are a bunch of levers they can and should be pulling.

I’m not sure the business has the $$ to support all of the union requests (Should they? Yes, but good ol’ Dave really did a number on the business). They should offer to attempt claw back the last 3 CEO departure packages as a guesture of good will if they can’t meet union requests.

It needs to be broken up.

Does this number include Boeing workers on strike or furloughed claiming unemployment? Because that is 33k+.

I dunno… It is Kitsap County.

They’ll ask for (and probably get) a government bailout. So no reason not to run the ship into the ground!