you said “west is fucked up when working”

I haven’t said those words.

Without an alternate explanation to the one I came up with, it’s absolutely rational to continue with my explanation.

No it is not.

That’s not an explanation.

Indeed. I’m not sure why you expected an explanation.

all I can assume is that you were engaging in whataboutism

That’s not rational.

I already did.

I don’t believe you have. Could you quote the text where you demonstrate that I’m engaging in “whataboutism”?

you haven’t even bothered explaining what you did mean if you weren’t engaging in whataboutism

I meant what I wrote. If you’re confused about the meaning of anything I’ve written, feel free to ask me to clarify, I’m happy to explain.

I think we both know why

I think you’re not engaging in this discussion in good faith.

You have made a claim now.

It’s you who made the claim that I am engaging in “whataboutism”. It’s on you to show that what you’ve said is true.

It still looks like you’re both engaging in whataboutism to me.

shrug

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reason ?

You still haven’t explained how this is not implying that …

It’s not on me to show that what I’ve said is not something you think it is, it’s on you to show that what I’ve said is something you think it is.

“What about the Western nations? No one is completely blameless.”

That would only make sense if I had introduced the concept of Western nations. OP did that, not me.

Maybe re-read not just what I wrote, but the whole thread.

looks like

To you. Maybe re-read what I’ve written.

So was I … Simply mentioned the hypocrisy of both groups

You said:

“They need to not do business with brutal, oppressive systems and government like China.”

Here you’re stating that China is a brutal, oppresive system and government. Saying that “they” (Western nations) need to not do business with “brutal, oppressive systems” implies that the Western nations are not themselves brutal and oppressive.

You also said

“Like it never stopped western nations from trying to benefit from the exploitation either.”

and used the word “stopped” which is past tense, meaning that Western nations’ benefitting from exploitation of their population is something which happened in the past and is not something which is still happening now.

You also said

“just because the West used brutality and slavery does not justify China doing it now.”

and used the word “used” which is past tense and even said “China doing it now”, clearly contrasting a (supposedly) past behaviour of the West with a current behaviour of China.

“the US”.

I haven’t said those words.

This does not describe what I’ve done.

That was literally the point.

You’ve misunderstood.

the West used brutality

I’m saying Western nations use brutality now.

both sides. Tankies … Capitalist

Don’t put me in a box.

You say that as if Western nations aren’t themselves brutal, oppressive and exploitative.

The important question is: why didn’t they engineer their system this way in the first place? Wouldn’t touch their products with a 10-foot barge poll.

Fealty

warned

LOL

Linux, the kernel so associated with Free Software, was at some point proprietary.

ROFL what an ignorant fool

Free, open-source Photoshop alternative

Groan

Who is yalls go to

O_o

It biases them towards catering to public demand instead of being a neutral arbiter of justice.

But they’re biased anyway, towards whoever has the power to take away their job. They’re never neutral arbiters of justice.