I wonder what’s going to happen when the cis women realize that banning trans people from their spaces didn’t actually fix anything and their husbands, boyfriends, and colleagues are still groping, beating, and forcing themselves on them.
That’s ridiculous. Why would you think that the TERFs believed that banning trans people would stop all groping, beatings or rape? They’re defending their safe spaces. They want the safe spaces for a reason.
That’s obviously an appeasement strategy towards orangeboi and the nationalist Christians
It’s not. This conflict has been going on since long before Trump took office.
For some reason there’s still a market for cheap dedicated MP3 players.
Why would there not be?
it’s closer to a serious article than a blogpost
I find it bizarre and plain wrong to imply that blog posts can’t be serious articles.
both of which have a major flaw
What major flaw do you believe ActivityPub has?
looks better
What do you mean?
than ActivityPub
ActivityPub is decentralised. AT has a centralised index. They’re not comparable.
becomes an official government mouthpiece
Uh… “becomes”?
you said “west is fucked up when working”
I haven’t said those words.
Without an alternate explanation to the one I came up with, it’s absolutely rational to continue with my explanation.
No it is not.
That’s not an explanation.
Indeed. I’m not sure why you expected an explanation.
all I can assume is that you were engaging in whataboutism
That’s not rational.
I already did.
I don’t believe you have. Could you quote the text where you demonstrate that I’m engaging in “whataboutism”?
you haven’t even bothered explaining what you did mean if you weren’t engaging in whataboutism
I meant what I wrote. If you’re confused about the meaning of anything I’ve written, feel free to ask me to clarify, I’m happy to explain.
I think we both know why
I think you’re not engaging in this discussion in good faith.
You have made a claim now.
It’s you who made the claim that I am engaging in “whataboutism”. It’s on you to show that what you’ve said is true.
It still looks like you’re both engaging in whataboutism to me.
shrug
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reason ?
You still haven’t explained how this is not implying that …
It’s not on me to show that what I’ve said is not something you think it is, it’s on you to show that what I’ve said is something you think it is.
“What about the Western nations? No one is completely blameless.”
That would only make sense if I had introduced the concept of Western nations. OP did that, not me.
Maybe re-read not just what I wrote, but the whole thread.
looks like
To you. Maybe re-read what I’ve written.
So was I … Simply mentioned the hypocrisy of both groups
You said:
“They need to not do business with brutal, oppressive systems and government like China.”
Here you’re stating that China is a brutal, oppresive system and government. Saying that “they” (Western nations) need to not do business with “brutal, oppressive systems” implies that the Western nations are not themselves brutal and oppressive.
You also said
“Like it never stopped western nations from trying to benefit from the exploitation either.”
and used the word “stopped” which is past tense, meaning that Western nations’ benefitting from exploitation of their population is something which happened in the past and is not something which is still happening now.
You also said
“just because the West used brutality and slavery does not justify China doing it now.”
and used the word “used” which is past tense and even said “China doing it now”, clearly contrasting a (supposedly) past behaviour of the West with a current behaviour of China.
“the US”.
I haven’t said those words.
This does not describe what I’ve done.
That was literally the point.
You’ve misunderstood.
the West used brutality
I’m saying Western nations use brutality now.
both sides. Tankies … Capitalist
Don’t put me in a box.
It seems like you’re talking about something different. Originally, you were talking about cis people who thought banning trans people would stop their husbands, etc., being abusive. In other words, that banning trans people would stop all abuse. It seems like what you’re talking about here is something different: not all abuse but only some abuse.
Why do you think there are people who believe that banning trans people will stop all abuse?