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  • I’d go basic debian . Install flatpak and flathub to get any packages that are too far out of date or might get so. Any derivative or ubuntu derivative just sees like unnecessary extra dependencies to me.

    Debian gives i think a wider choice of desktop environment than any of the derivatives on install, but I think they’re all much of a muchness really. Most of the DEs have the “Click something, window opens” feature.






  • I’m sure you’re just using “communist” rhetorically there, for various USA history reasons that I don’t fully understand.

    But it’s important to point out that corruption isn’t the same as “communist handout”. There was nothing “communal” when the USSR did corruption, and nothing “communal” when the USA does corruption. It’s all just concentrating power in a few peoples hands with as few limits as possible.

    Good luck to you though, if your political forces can’t stop the concentration of power then conflict and likely bloodshed might be the only option. And there’ll be a lot fighting to save the empowered, hoping for some crumbs to trickle down to them. I can’t believe that all the pro-gun rhetoric in the USA - that I’d previoulsy though crazy - begins to make some sense.






  • I agree, there’s a lot of people in this thread who seem to know exactly what is good or bad for a new user. But I don’t see many being sensitive to what the user might actually want to achieve. New users are not a homogeneous group.

    If the user wants to both use (stably) and learn (break stuff) simultaneously, I’d suggest that they start on debian but have a second disk for a dual boot / experimentation. I don’t really use qemu much but maybe that’s a good alternative these days. But within that I’d say set them self the challenge of getting a working arch install from scrath - following the wiki. Not from the script or endeavourOS - I think those are for 4th/5th install arch users.

    I find it hard to believe that I’d have learned as much if ubuntu was available when I started. But I did dual boot various things with DOS / windows for years - which gave something stable, plus more of a sandbox.

    I think the only universal recommedation for. any user, any distro, is “figure ourt a decent backup policy, then try to stick to it”. If that means buy a cheap used backup pc, or raspberry pi and set it up for any tasks you depend on, then do that. and I’d probably pick debian on that system.


  • Not really, it generally worked in the end - so in fact it’s pretty great actually at getting you out of a hole.

    It was just a load of extra steps - and usually a last resort after failing with whatever came on the installation disks. So morale had taken a few hits before you even started with it.

    Everything is easier when you can connect to the network immediately.

    Fair play to ubuntu (and i guess kernel improvements in early 2ks) - that was such a major step in ease of installation.






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    It depends what packages you need, and what they have to interact with.

    If it’s all standalone then no problem until the hardware degrades.

    For example I had laptop (DOS/Win98 ) with a pcmcia network adapter with BNC 50 ohm coax network dongle, 9/25 pin serial/parallell ports, maybe p/s2 port, floppy drive and so on.

    I can’t think what I’d connect that to I might have a parallell port on my PC, but on that laptop I think I only had laplink so I’d need a linux app to interact with that. I do still hve a floppy drive somewhere, but how to connect that to my motherboard?

    So I’d probably be limited to keyboard and trackball input, and audio + (monochrome) video output.

    lemmings on black and white, blurry, slow refresh rate would still “work” unless the hdd got corrupted.

    Within a lifetime current gen wifi, usb, ethernet etc may all be as rare as 9 pin serial is today - it’s still around of course, but you cant rely on it.