Why hasn’t Putin nuked Ukraine? I thought Putin was insane right?

There’s still time! Reminds me of the investing advice adage - current performance does not predict future results. My opinion is that they are all insane. But then again I naturally distrust people who seek authority. And re Putin’s insanity specifically, are you aware of his backstory of how he came into power in Russia? He’s shady as hell to his own people.

Why does Ukraine need nukes?

Because I doubt NATO would be wiling to retaliate on their behalf. Trump sure as fuck won’t and Europe would be far to weak to do so IMHO.

That’s a fair point. But IMO that’s another move towards further conflict (which would ultimately pop off to nuclear war after either side got tired of attrition) rather than towards peace.

Also I don’t see how the west “abandoning” Ukraine would make them suddenly buddy buddy with Russia who’s currently killing them. That makes no sense.

Relevant to “Russians downvoting” because it’s fucking ridiculous

I don’t have an opinion on krushchev, but I do know that putin needs to be a strong man to keep power.

You’re proving my point though - they already have nukes. Why does Ukraine need nukes? If things are going nuclear it’s all over in a few minutes anyway as whoever strikes first (US or Russia) will be retaliated against immediately by the other, and then everything ends for everyone except for the few unlucky survivors. Why stoke the fire and make that outcome even more likely?

If MAD is working then Ukraine doesn’t need nukes it’s got nuclear allies. If MAD isn’t working then we’re all gonna be fucked in the near future, we all lose and nobody, not even the billionaires in their bunkers, wins.

Eh, sometimes I do that (bitch about downvotes). It’s not the imaginary internet points that matter, it’s the confusion about why I’m not being understood especially when whatever I’m commenting is in general agreement with the rest of the comments.

MAD requires sane leadership and neither the US nor Russia are to be trusted with that.

LMFAO I’m the furthest thing from qanon

Victoria neuland under the Obama administration (and I believe subversively as in not necessarily Obama approved which would explain his actions after) orchestrated the maiden revolution which led to the overthrow of the pro Russian leader and the installment of a pro nato leader. When Russia went after crimea in the subsequent power vacuum Obama refused to get involved because he knew where it would lead to - eventual nuclear confrontation. And now we are here, even closer to nuclear confrontation.

I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Russia decided to move under compromised and weak biden.

If you don’t think putin, the unknown people standing in for biden, and trump who’s about to come into power are all insane and not to be trusted, I don’t know what the fuck to tell you.

As for Zelenskyy and the Ukrainians, of course they have the right and duty to defend themselves from Russian aggression. When I say Zelenskyy doesn’t matter, it’s because Ukraine is a pawn full of valuable natural resources that the two major powers are fighting for influence over. How do you not see that!

Neither side is sane. We have belligerent Americans and putin needs to be a strongman to hold power in his country. That’s a recipe for neither side backing down and one side (who knows which) deciding nukes are a good solution.

Biden isn’t running america and probably hasn’t been for some time because he’s too demented but rather his unelected mystery team of advisors are running the place. All of whom I’m sure are handsomely paid by the “defense” industry.

Trumps coming in and well… trump is trump. Obviously not sane either. Complete narcissist. Anybody with more money than him who’s willing to massage his ego will have his attention and support.

Ukraine is a pawn. Zelenskyy doesn’t matter at all. This is a nato Russia proxy war that might turn into the real thing if we don’t find an off ramp soon.

Funny you say that, I’m burning one right now 🌳

I’m of Russian Jewish descent but my family has been in America since 1907.

You’re getting downvoted because most of the world thinks increasing nuclear risk is bad. Because it is!

If there were an easy way to end this conflict it would of happened by now. But I’m not interested in nuclear war and MAD only works when both sides are sane. Does anyone look sane right now on either side?!

Also if Russia uses nukes they’ll get a nato nuke response. What’s the point of putting nukes in Ukraine? We can end the whole world in like 30 minutes if we’re fucking dumb enough.

If nukes start flying we all lose.

I honestly don’t think trump will make it to 2028 alive. He’s old he’s got a terrible diet and being president (no matter how shitty at it) is a high stress job. I’m betting on natural causes taking him out before 2028.

I mean we are superior for other reasons. But no. The same internalized misogyny still applies. That’s why I wrote laughs in lesbian as if conquest is just a straight man thing.

Your sarcasm about us being the pinnacle of mental health is why you got the downvotes. It’s an allusion to gay = crazy, which ya know, with us being in the DSM until more recently is offensive.

I don’t think I said any of that lol

Laughs in lesbian

Thanks lol

What the actual fuck

They shouldn’t of pulled out, they should of impregnated Florida. Their body, my choice right?

Honestly they are equally bad in different ways. Every successive government since 9/11 and perhaps even before has expanded the security state at the expense of our rights. The popularization of using executive orders to go around congress and the authorization of all sorts of military operations outside of congress is again, a both parties thing. The lack of checks and balances on our government and real representation is how we ended up here… it was obvious from the passage of the patriot act to me (and the subsequent failure of Obama, trump and biden to do anything about it) that one day a tyrant will use it to fully implement fascism. Look at how the security state - under biden - is responding to Luigi - would they do that for any other murder? No, they wouldn’t. Look at how democrat NY gov hochul is gonna set up a special crisis hotline for scared CEOs. Why isn’t she doing that for anyone else? Rhetorical question. Look at how biden pardoned the cash for kids judge (truly despicable wtf was he thinking) and left the climate science lawyer to rot? Look at how biden kept kids in cages and Obama kept prisoners in torture conditions at Guantanamo. The democrats are the banality of evil, the republicans are simply more overt and have their fascism in the National-Christian variety, also known as nat-c, aka christofascists. The democrats are technofascist - look at Obama’s cozy relationship with big tech and subsequent high tech surveillance state expanded under him with even more power for agencies such as the NSA… look at the social media algorithm manipulation that’s been going on since it started - under every admin. And now the US is blocking Chinese run tik tok - can’t have US spooks controlling a foreign run algorithm like they do in the US. The republicans are just the vanguard for fascism and the democrats backstop any reform towards the ever increasing right wing swing.

I wouldn’t go as far as to say fuck Michael Moore, but I’d say all of the things you point out the entire liberal ecosystem was guilty of during Obama’s terms - and Biden’s too. It’s like the man could do no wrong despite doing a 180 on what he got elected on. The fact that liberals refused to hold Obama accountable is why we got trump in 2016. They doubled down with it being her turn despite the fact she was even more conservative and a warmonger than Obama (factually, Hillary voted for the Iraq war, Obama didn’t, both were democrat senators at the time).

Liberals only care about accountability when the other team is in charge. Omg there’s children in cages! (biden keeps those kids in cages, not a peep from liberals)

The European mods actively said they don’t agree with free speech and their countries laws don’t allow any kind of advocation of violence. I got banned from world.

I hope Luigi is just the first. These parasites have it coming.