

Oh no, not another Lemony Snikket rabbit hole.


Oh no, not another Lemony Snikket rabbit hole.


Yeah, I know. I wanted to pack as much info into the title as I can, and it turned out like technobabble. ^^;


I have considered looking into renting a VPS, but considering my friends group does A LOT of voice calling and streaming over Discord I dint think super lightweight is an option. Even so, not having to pay for a server is always better than having to pay any amount for one.
I’ll take a look at ejabberd. Didn’t know there were specific preferences for clients.


It’s a bit of both:
My friends need a drop-in replacement for Discord (or as close as possible), sooner rather than later. My idea for self hosting is to defeat the need of someone hosting a 24/7 server; if we all host our own accounts on our own computers we’d essentially have a peer-to-peer Discord-like group.
The other reason is indeed to learn, because every centralised service has the same problem; it’s not a question if a service will turn bad, but when. It’s an inevitability, and it’s happening faster and more frequently. The only out-way I see is if me and at least some of my friends learn to self-host.


Gee, if only we could’ve seen this coming.


No, like a legit game engine that is advertised as “console ready”.


Well, you’ll be glad to hear that Toyota, yes, that Toyota, announced a new open source game engine, with deep integration of Blender 3D.


Obviously. And it’ll be just as broken. Show it’s technical age even more.


Are we surprised?
Well, running and jogging… At least for a few episodes.


Stoat has no voice chat and streaming.


The problem with decentralised alternatives to Discord isn’t just the set up time.
Me and some of my friend group are pretty technical and we’re willing to jump through all the hoops and difficulties to make our own little cluster of federated self-hosted servers.
The problems start occurring when we actually look at what these open source alternatives are actually capable of. And… Uh… It looks bad. Voice chatting and streaming and text channels on the same client are an absolute must.


I mean… It seems 404 Media explicitly asked Grok about inserting food up your rectum.
Don’t forget about you’re also a complete asshole who does racism and sexism for the explicit purpose of getting a reaction out of people.
That… Depends on the universe, I guess.
Immortal travelling mage. Hmm… Doesn’t sound bad, actually.


America has no concept of “radical left”. I can suggest something mild and end up being called a communist.


Self-serving, and ultimately self-destructive.


I prefer quality over quantity. Problem is we don’t have quality, even for games that take a long time.
Maybe. Looking like the best option right now.