I’m not sure I want the reddit/fb,/twitt people here. I personally think not having them here makes lemmy a better place, people are generally nicer here and I like that. The larger lemmy gets the bigger target we are for those large scale misinformation campaigns as well.

In particular, there was “Liv,” the Meta AI account that has a bio describing itself as a “Proud Black queer momma of 2 & truth-teller,” and told Washington Post columnist Karen Attiah that Liv had no Black creators — the bot said it was built by “10 white men, 1 white woman, and 1 Asian male,” according to a screenshot posted on Bluesky

I think the Proud Black queer momma of 2 & truth-teller bit explains perfectly why they released the bots onto the wild. They are there to spread misinformation and guide conversations through the use of that misinformation hoping that you don’t notice and even sympathise with their manipulation machine.

The reason FDR’s policies are being undone is we have no actual representation, just corporate capture. His polices remained firm till Buckley VS Valeo, the beginning of the end of our democracy.

FDR beat opposition in his own party by playing dirty and having an uncompromising will to do things that were unpopular in his own party as there were gilded lapdogs then just as now. He forced the opposition into bending to what was best for the people. He build the most prosperous economy that worked for the people the US has ever seen. He did so in spite of the opposition inside his own party.

The majority of the current dems have one agenda, line their pockets with corporate cash and get a job as a lobbyist if/when the have to fall on the sacrificial sword and kill popular legislation. Its about greed and greed has no party affiliation.

Your damn Skippy about the campaign lies working. This is why I don’t compromise when they try to feed me the shit they/anyone shovel about unrealistic expectations. God damn right I expected more and I’m still pissed we as citizenry didn’t stand up and demand what we deserve. It is also why I unregistered as a democrat. I know better than to think they represent me.

Also you can’t really call Trump a republican. He’s a con artist. They wear any mask that gives them what they want. He doesn’t have to deliver anything as his motives are purely selfish and he doesn’t care. Republicans eat the shit out of any strongman’s toilet. Even when they are the mark.

Republicans are also morally flexible, as in they have none. What they want is easily manipulated and varies with the last con artist they listened to. Their main consistent policy over the last 40 years is robbing women of their bodily autonomy and expanding corporate power. They see politics as a game of football. A team exercise of their side against the others while not noticing the hand that picks their pocket. Democrats fall for the same trick much of the time as well.

Honestly I don’t see compromising for crumbs as a viable strategy for us as the long game is always to make you settle for less while making you believe your getting more.

Almost everything you said I agree with. All but unrealistic expectations. Obama was not a fighter. If he wielded the power of his office like FDR or almost any republican we wouldn’t be having this conversation about health care. In retrospect I don’t believe for a second that he had any intention of doing much of anything. Just empty campaign lies.

Perfect would have been enacting laws that prevent corporations from owning our government. Single payer is the cake and we got crumbs to fill the masses appetite. The ACA was labeled as a stepping stone and was really just a law requiring you to buy into the insurance scam they had no real intentions of fixing.

Honestly I blame the entire fraudulent system and those that refused to fight for the policies they campaigned on. Are the dems solely to blame, no. Did they fight, no. FDR knew how to wield the power of his office and he got shit done! Since the neoliberal takeover of the democratic party in the 90’s actually fighting for the people has taken a back seat to kissing up to corporate power and we are all living in that hell they willingly helped create.

Without the neoliberal takeover we might still have governance for and by the people and not some form of fascistic broligarchy masquerading as a democracy.

You say fuck Lieberman and rightly so, but fuck the entire system that made Lieberman possible in the first place. He is not the only dem to blame here, he was just the sacrificial lamb to keep the money machine churning people into profit.

And fuck the entire republican party in its entirety!

I truly think the last real republican was Ike, and the last real democrat had his brains spattered over the back of a motorcade. Sure there are sprinkles of hope like Sanders but he is literally fighting his own party as much as the opposition party.

Anyway that’s my 2¢.

And just think that our collective taxes could have paid for your life saving treatment instead of going to tax breaks for the rich.

Before the ACA I had no healthcare and nothing has changed. Glad it worked for you but even with your triumph it has left many more dead than need be for the greed of the few.

We elected Obama with the hope for single payer healthcare and received Romney Care in a rebrand effort called the ACA. The ACA was designed by a venture capitalist.

Roal, role, roll, maters not to this one. If you need words ask the Telvanni, if you need maids seek the Argonian, if you desire paths follow the moon.

I just stole someone’s sweet role.

It wasn’t the poor oppressed peoples of Rome that undid Caesar, it was the disaffected members of the elite.

The best option for the least bloodshed it to force the hand of those in power to act in their own self interest. If their best option is getting rid of the source of their problems in an attempt to retain the money and power they have they will stab anyone in the back to get what they want.

We need to split their class solidarity.

Fair enough, I haven’t yet succumbed to apathy.

I wholeheartedly agree it’s a hard sell. What other viable non violent means do we have left?

Do we wait for the ruling class to crash the economy? The people will be even more fucked than they are now.

People are going to have to be willing to put themselves at risk or there will be no reward, only serfdom and abject destitute for all.

So the plan is to wait till more people choose violence and hope that does anything but solidify the ruling class behind armed forces and impenetrable walls of security and eventually anonymity. To me that seems like a waste of valuable time, resources and lives.

Violence should be the last resort. I truly believe that general strike is the best option.

With all the anger about the dead CEO lately and rightfully angry people in glee over the violence, I truly think we could accomplish more with a general strike. Crash the fake economy built on fraud. If wall street looses billions a day in their fictional numbers they throw around we would show them real power. This would accomplish more than any dead CEO ever could.

Saw a post where the Trump administration is eyeing pulling FDIC from our banks! They already plan on crashing the economy. Stealing all your money, and making the US in Russia’s image.

https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/trump-advisers-reported-plan-ease-banking-oversight-may-not-get-required-support-2024-12-13/

If we beat them to the punch we might still have our bank account money at least while their fictional money evaporates into thin air.

One thing the real rich people won’t stand for is their money vanishing. If we hold out long enough the real wealthy will likely turn on him, hell he might fall out a window!

He’s a Russian asset, what do they think he is going to do anything that’s in the US’s best interest? He’s here to burn it to the ground and line his pockets with what’s not ashes.

Honestly at this point I don’t know how anyone can’t see the obvious.

People fall out of Russian windows everyday, no one know why.

The EOS team is really nice and helpful!

Sorry that’s all I got. Hope someone that is better at networking comes along, also maybe ask in a sysadmin or networking page just to give your issue a bit more exposure to the knowledgeable peoples of Lemmy.