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  • It is. Did their ship get to shore, are their doctors doing doctor things in hospital (tents) in Gaza? Journalists doing journalism on the ground? No? Then they are preventing aid. Blockades are for security, what security risk is it to Israel for these people to get there on a ship Israel themselves searched and found no contraband nor combatants? None?

    That’s how a blockade works. You even sourced your own contradiction, the blockade *must" be maintained by force a blockade that isn’t adequately enforced is not a blockade. You announce intention slow to boarding speed and make way to your destination until ordered to slow and be boarded to enter.

    Yes, Israel specifically has not accused them of that nor charged them with anything that could be construed as such.

    Can’t let civilians simply sail straight into a combat zone in a foreign country either.

    You yourself provided the source that says they can be boarded and searched, at no point does it say they can be barred entry nor taken as prize when on humanitarian mission.

    You’d cheer a hospital ship being seized, the doctors deported and they’re supplies seized?





  • they very publicly declared they were bound for a blockaded port.

    Not illegal.

    which under Maritime Law permits Israel to board it.

    Not detain and seize, maritime law is very specific in that a blockade cannot block aid unreasonably. A super famous ship you’ve searched that’s filled solely with celebrities and aid is something you shouldn’t turn away so long as they accept security arrangements like boarding and searching. This isn’t star wars nor are they the trade union and total blockades like your implying are very illegal as defined by the law you’re sourcing.




  • It’s not like Israel boarded a ship that just happened to be in the area,

    That’s exactly what happened, blockade borders have to be announced and ships have to be allowed time to leave the area. Israel left their blockade and kidnapped people aboard a ship they did not allow to leave an area they weren’t in.

    these freedom flotilla yahoos very publicly declared they were bound for Gaza, which under Maritime Law permits Israel to board it.

    Once they breach the blockade yes arguably though with only aid that gets more complex. Essentially aid entry is allowed so long as you agree to security arrangements that are both reasonable and lawful. That could mean Israel could board and search, or doesn’t mean they can blockade all aid to starve a population which is specifically and in multiple very very illegal.

    https://casebook.icrc.org/a_to_z/glossary/blockade

    Their sources section is awash with good relevant information and specifically findings on the last Israeli famous Israeli blockade and subsequent boarding (and death of iirc 9) which was found to be a legal blockade so long as the purpose was not starvation and aid could enter with security arrangements.


  • No. They never entered anywhere Israel is legally allowed to exclude even in war It being full of aid and verifiable non combatants.

    It’s kidnapping.

    Just like how the US abducted people in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    Your example is also kidnapping but even excluding that bit of nuance the key word is “in” they never entered territorial waters and thus were never “in” Israel or Palestine. Israel can declare 1500mi of the coast of Somalia an exclusion zone then kidnap people there and that would make just as much sense in a legal view.