You’ve done nothing to try to convince me that I am incorrect. You’ve not engaged with my original argument with any logical reasoning or facts. You haven’t even tried. All you’ve done is degrade my degrees and try to bully me out of my opinion like a little school child. In fact, I am beginning to suspect I really am speaking to a child – even wishing that you could physically smack me instead when losing an argument.

Nothing I said is revisionism but solid fact. It is simply making new conclusions on new emerging research and historical sources – something that you have no idea about because you’re not a historian. Historians disagree all the time on the same historical events. You’d know this if you ever read more than one book on the same historical topic instead of taking the first one you read as gospel.

I stand by what I originally said. You are not equipped to debate history.

What you’ve said is true, but I still insist that Canada is not an imperial or opportunist country that is looking to gobble up states, even if handed on a silver platter. It’s just not really what we do. You are severely overlooking the fact that it would require a supermajority of support in both the seceding state and Canada as a whole to admit a new province/territory into the confederation. That is simply unlikely.

If the US collapses USSR-style, it would likely just simply balkanize instead of being picked over by its neighbours. It would balkanize either by region, or completely by states. What is probably more likely is probably another civil war, with one side completely winning or a stalemate being met and two or more separate USAs existing. But honestly, there is literally no way to know what will happen to the US going forward.

Gun to my head, had to choose, I’d say that America just continues to be a flawed democracy and returns to its isolationism that it historically always does inbetween major wars, probably suffer a major recession, and then has a civil war.

You’re 10-ply bud. The only person showing a gross lack of humility here is you. I’d go into depth on why what you said is stupid and is bad history, but smart words are wasted on deaf ears. I can tell you all the historical facts backed by primary sources all day, but I can’t teach critical thinking. That lack is critical thinking is what got you here. But hey, go ahead and keep on using bigger words to shield against that fragile, threatened, intellect of yours. I’m sure it will make us agree with you more instead of actually citing sources or doing any attempt to explain why you think what you said made any sense. So far you argument is “Field Marshal Zhukov said otherwise once” and your source is “trust me”, and hiding behind the opinions of unnamed peoples who are more accredited than me (therefore default right-er-er than me!!), along with copious, pitiful, abrasive ad hominen attacks (I know big words too!!).

Real talk. I don’t know what you do for a living, but I recommend you stay in your lane and I’ll stay in mine. The electrician shouldn’t tell a plumber how to bend pipes. Whatever brainrot is making you sanctify a long dead Field Marshal of the USSR, one responsible for the extremely brutality on the civilians of East Germany and especially Berlin, you should do some serious introspection as to why. You glorifying this man shows you are severely detached from reality, let alone equipped to debate history.

Oh, and I’m under no pretense to be polite or humble when talking about history here. This isn’t a history conference, its an anonymous forum. I can be as crass or rude as I want here. Frankly, I should’ve just told you to pound sand instead of writing all this out. Do me a favour, and trust me when I say that what you said and think is stupid as hell. Your homework is to use the boundless expanse of the educational internet to figure out why. I say this with sass yet genuine concern; educate yourself better. Your mind deserves better.

If the Cons were smart, they’re have kept him on a leash as an attack dog while making someone much more respectable be the party leader. Let PP do his vicious mockery act and outrage farming to soak up all the bad press, and let a normal-looking con take the seat.

Right now, PP is like a little yapping dog that got ahold of its own leash and doesn’t know what to do with it.

Most Canadians would love the idea of states joining us

Nope. Not true.

They wouldn’t even refuse solidly red states, I think

I would. They would view us as an occupying power, and would be right to think so. Think of Quebec, but instead of being French they’re just racist. I don’t want that in my Canada.

It would make Canada stronger, and a better life for the states

It would be a clusterfuck. Not Canada’s problem to make life better for Americans. Ever heard the saying, people get the government they deserve? Majority of them are assholes or unable to help themselves. If they want to enjoy a better life the Canadian way, they can work on immigrating here. Canada is not an expansionist country. Plenty Happy as is, geopolitically speaking.

Economic power together is enhanced

We’ve been doing this already, as two separate sovereign nations. Assholes turned it against us. You know, you read the news.

Canada even as 10 states instead of 1, doesn’t work because US debt is too high, and US simply has too harsh of a society meant for oligarchy.

Not sure what you’re going on about with the US debt. But that alone is a reason for us to not join together. Who the hell would want to inherent that problem? Canadians would be taxed like crazy to help pay that off. If by too harsh of a society, you mean ruthless individualism at the expense of the overall social fabric, which has a nasty effect of creating oligarchs? Correct.

Healthcare would be a major issue.

It would be, but in this scenario is would ironically be the least problematic thing.

These opinions are presented to you by a dual citizen Canadian currently living in the Southeast of America. No normal people here want to invade Canada, and no Canadian wants to be a “savior” of poor abused American states. I’m down to let more people immigrate and become PR or citizens, but not a blanket annexation of entire states. If Americans have a issue with their current federal government, they can take some bricks and throw them through select politicians windows while doing mass strikes like the rest of the civilized world does to keep their democracy clean. The French revolution wasn’t bloodless, nor was the American Revolutionary War. Tyrants don’t go away on their own.

You know nothing about Canadians nor what the average American thinks and it shows.

Didn’t realize that a Field Marshal of the Soviet Union is the be all end all of opinions about WW2 and the participation of the US in it. Next you’ll be asking me to follow Douglas MacArthur’s opinions on the Korean War!

Get real. The US showed up in WW1 in 1917, long after the Central powers were exhausted. In WW2, the US showed up in 1941. On the pacific front, the Japanese had been fighting China since 1933. In Europe, the Germans had been fighting since 1939. In both wars, the homefront was entirely untouched unlike the rest of the world, setting up the US with a massive head economic head start in the post-war period.

But hey, go on, lecture to the person with two history degrees from a US university on why your dead Soviet Field Marshal’s opinion is more correct about the US’s participation in the war than me.

Erm… it’s Pearl Milling Company syrup now 🤓☝

Inb4 theres an executive order changing the name back to Aunt Jemima’s again lol

I love me some Letterkenny. While it is a comedy, it really does an excellent job at highlighting what being Canadian means. I really need to watch the spin off, Shoresy.

If you’re interested in more media that helps you understand what being Canadian is all about, I’d recommend listening to some of the most iconic Canadians musicians of all time: Leonard Cohen, Neil Young, Gordon Lightfoot, The Tragically Hip, Bachman-Turner Overdrive, and The Band. You’ve almost certainly heard their songs before, but listen to some of their less popular music.

Here’s some specific songs that I am fond of, and feel highlight Common Canadian Sensibilities:

• King Harvest (Has Surely Come) by The Band
• Dance me to the End of Love by Leonard Cohen
• In View by The Tragically Hip
• Bobcaygeon by The Tragically Hip
• Signs by Five Man Electrical Band
• Carefree Highway by Gordon Lightfoot
• If You Could Read My Mind by Gordon Lightfoot
• Illegal by Corbeau
• Universal Soldier by Buffy Sainte-Marie
• Til I Am Myself Again by Blue Rodeo
• (You’re A) Strange Animal by Gowan
• The Rest of My Life by Sloan
• Money City Maniacs by Sloan
• The Consumer by Stompin’ Tom Connors
• Helpless by Neil Young
• Heart of Gold by Neil Young
• Life Is A Highway by Tom Cochrane
• American Psycho by Treble Charger
• Truth Doesn’t Live in a Book by Ben Chaplan
• The Night Pat Murphy Died by Great Big Sea

These showcase a variety of genres and locations within Canada. We are a big country with such a beautiful mixture of experiences that allow for such wonderful music to be produced.

And the more time Canadian consumers and industries have to find new (or rediscover) alternatives. If he hit us with this like he said we would right of the bat, it would’ve hurt way more. Every day he threatens Canada with this, the weaker the threat becomes.

That’s a waste of good syrup.

Hi! I’m the brain drain!

I am a dual citizen with a MA in History (I know, real high value degree lol). I’m fucking leaving. The best shot to get a stable job with my degree in the US was with the federal gov. Overnight that has been shown to be a myth with all the illegal firings of federal workers, including the state museums. Those that are staying are forced to perverse and erase history. I refuse to rewrite or omit history.

I’m leaving once my lease is up in America. I wanted to move back home to my native Canada anyways, but this admin has convinced me it is not only the best move for me, but also morally.

I can’t tell whats more annoying: if they did it out of malice or indifference.

Either way, the cultural homogenizing effects of mass social media is a mistake and must be fought against. Countries that primarily speak English are at the greatest threat of this. If I had a magic genie I’d wish that Canadian’s native language was anything other than English so people’s minds wouldn’t be so easily poisoned by all the dumb bullshit media the US produces. There are genuinely people in Canada who believe they have Second Amendment rights.

I’ve been saying this lately, but Canada as a whole needs to emulate what Quebec is doing to protect its cultural identity. Limit American media coming into the country. Defend and cultivate our unique cultural identity at all costs.

Anyone that says Canada is not distinguished culturally from America is ignorant. I am a dual citizen who has lived in and loved both countries. Just because we are neighbours, mostly white, and speak the same language, does not make us identical. We have a different social fabric. The biggest difference is that America is a extremely individualistic society, and Canadians are a collective society. I’d call us socialist, but that word immediately turns off the listening ears of Americans as they have been programmed since McCarthy to reject socialism in all forms – even though America has dozens of socialist programs such as social security and food stamps. To explain socialist concepts to Americans you have to use synonyms. It’s like feeding a dog a pill covered in fucking peanut butter. Gotta “trick” them to help them because they just don’t understand otherwise. I don’t wanna trick anybody I just wanna help but stupid fucking billionaires got these idiots convinced socialist concepts are gonna destroy the country. Oh no! We made your medications cheaper and allowed you to unionize so you can get better wages and job security! So evil! I swear, if you changed “Union Dues” to “Employment Insurance” they’d be all aboard.

That’s where I’m kinda at at the moment too. Just fucking do it or don’t already. If you don’t want to buy our shit just don’t and we will find new markets to sell to. There is an endless queue of people in line to buy Canadian goods, raw resource or manufactured. It’s just that the US always made the most geographic and geopolitical sense.

If this is actually an attempt to bring manufacturing jobs back to America (a fruitless and losing battle for most industries but still), then all they had to do was give Canadian industries a heads up “hey, we are gonna slowly wean off of you guys, nothing personal. Hope you find new markets.” Simple as. They are not obligated to buy our shit and we aren’t obligated to sell it to them either. They’re the assholes who pressured us into these free trade agreements and now they’re upset that the “invisible hand” of capitalism isn’t giving them a handy or has a inherent pro-American bias.

Just a bunch of children that are upset that the rest of the world has finally caught up and/or recovered from the destruction of WW2 and can genuinely compete with the US in just about every regard, especially education and industry. American exceptionalism is only real in the sense that America was the exception to the mass destruction and loss of life in both world wars by being fucking pussies that joined both world wars late and after the enemy was already thoroughly exhausted and bled dry by the Allies. There is nothing particularly remarkable about America in the modern world excluding its vast natural resources and severely over-funded military. They love capitalism but not competition.

My theory is that some asshole at google thought it was soo much to keep track of what every government globally calls their government operated parks and nature reserves, and just wanted a blanket term for it and went for “state park”, with no consideration for how itd piss most countries off.

Yep. Its not technically wrong to call them state parks, but still fuck’em that is our PROVINCIAL park.

Maybe a small cultural hill we are on right now but we give us enough of these hills and suddenly we lose any semblance of cultural uniqueness.

They’re done this globally apparently. They just got rid of the provincial park option and defaults all government operated nature reserves, of any government, as “state parks”.

Seems very shortsighted and with a disregard for other countries. Extremely confusing move by google.

Assuming these sites are canadian operated and funded, I fail to see how this be used against us. I fully agree that the Trump admin is posturing itself as a threat to Canadians right now, but this could be a powerful way to remind the world that Canada and US are North Americans in it together. While shit is getting rough, we are ultimately in NATO together.

We can defend our sovereignty and cooperate with Americans simultaneously. Realistically speaking, this will go nowhere most likely.

I was thinking that lemmy.ca needs a ehbuddyhoser on here. It is insane how that sub is the most patriotic canadian subreddit on reddit aside from buycanadian lmao

Ditto. If it is secure, independent, and operated and maintained by Canadians, it is simply in the best interest of both countries. Frankly, it might be something we want to explore on our own even without the US leading it. We are an awfully large country though, and it might not be practical. But maybe we can atleast protect major population centers? Who knows. I’m out of my depth here.

It is in both of our countries best interests, really. If we refused it would be a petty move and a point of contention between the countries that is not needed.

Besides, this is the third time such a “iron dome” strategy has been attempted by the US and each one ends up a massive money sink and waste of time. I doubt third time will be the charm here. Very high chance this leads to nothing, and if it doesn’t, whelp North America is more protected from missile strikes.

I just wonder if Mexico is invited to the iron dome…