Ah the old “In these trying times” once again!

This was posted elsewhere but it’s relevant to mention the US already stated it would sell inferior versions of jets. Im sure these countries realised the current US mentality of “why stop there” and will probably cost cut further - lesser quality munitions and firearms, land vehicles, specialty fuels, etc.

Also in the face of tariffs and regular insults, being less inclined to purchase from someone increasingly hostile to them. This isn’t “out of the blue”, it’s the response step.

Mourn the loss of historical vehicles, but blame the people who threw them to be destroyed.

They don’t have to process customers if they’re fulfilling “a dealership in the US has asked for 5 of our triple motors in red” They’re filing a transfer and then listing it as if “we sold 5 cars” to bump numbers

That’s what I’m asking if they can do, illicit, to try and make it look like they’re making sales

Could they be inflating it using internarional order fulfillment/ shuffling cars to other dealerships? A dealership in idk India wants a Model X with a specific trim and motors, so they pack and ship,and count it as sold from these 4 Canadian inventories? Also moving them to the US for sales since they’re not selling well internationally?

Haha DINO

A vehicle (according to their website) that is 61k base, 81k for awd (2024) and 81k base (2025) to 101k (loaded) is 10% or less of a discount. If it’s a sliding scale and you don’t get that “up to” 6k unless Loaded, that is barely over 5%.

Maybe videogame economies have spoiled my idea of “discounts” and pricing of real items but “priced to sell” means better than hearing 95% of normal. I couldn’t say what dealers actually call fair when it comes to actually selling cars in this bracket for a profit but 25% might get sales moving again. (It works for home appliances, why not cars?).

I dive for super earth and space marines when I want other people around because while teammates are nice and all, I know we won’t lose (as often) due to player agency if someone has to get kicked (or drops, or dies)

Lots of games have poor matchmakers whether by malicious design or outright laziness. Over a decade ago Ubisoft specifically pattented a matchmaker learning tool that watches how long you play, how many matches you play, and how many losses you “put up with” without quitting, thereby deciding how often to sprinkle in steamroll wins. They swore it was “just to patent it and that no projects are planned to use this”, but when does the industry not lie through their teeth.

It’s an ouroborus - a self feeding problem that will always be able to Boogeyman the problem it caused. Those employees will then be painted as wasting money by tying up courts for settlements, decried like the McDonald’s coffee incident all over again.

This specific ship probably was not have been involved in those, but one like it would be. If you’re going to break something you need to know where it is. The link I found shows 5 total converted vessels like this in the Black Sea Fleet alone (They’re listed as Project 861M)

I stated she’s not alone because she only has a single SAM battery, and low top speed/fuel reserves. Something like this needs a refueler and protection escort, even if it’s a destroyer or 2.

Did a bit of digging, this is “Intelligence Ship Kilden” not a converted or re-activated Kilden Class destroyer (none of which were named Kilden, and all were deactivated by 1991). The ship is converted from a Hydrographic survey vessel (1970), outfitted with 16 “Strela” SAM missiles. Given her 30 day endurance and less than 10k nautical miles range, she was not out here alone - and suspiciously there’s been a lot of underwater stuff broken in the recent years - the kind of thing a hydrographic ship would be great at locating.

She’s powered by 4 diesel generators feeding 2 1800hp engines, so “thick black smoke coming from the funnel” means she probably blew an engine, and damaged the other for the moment, with no power to her screws (resulting in the Loss of Control signal) and as a result was “sacrificial lamb’d” by her surface complement in case of discovery. If they get the engine(s) back up and running, she will probably be rejoined by a conveniently close escort of some kind “to ensure she makes it back to port safely”.

Black Sea Fleet Russian website

I swear. The harder they mess with this type of stuff the more single-issue-voters it pushes to vote against them. This war on media is such a losing battle I don’t understand why they’re opting to wage it with the current fish on the grill. This kind of unpopular legislation is stuff you try and push when you’re in power, and try to sell it as an “eat your veggies” moment. Rebranding while they’re down certainly makes for an interesting conversation when they rubber band back into power and say “we’ve said we were gonna do this since 2025” type conversation.

in power since the 90s

Oh so carrying the torch for the LAST time they tried to go after media with the moral panic of “Explicit” music label stuff led by Tipper Gore? The one where Twisted Sister showed up in 1985. A continuation from when they had a panic about VHS recordings in 1969 and Mr Rogers testified.

I think it’s more of a subsidizing thing. In the UK they get all these things and can’t budge due to pushback and culture, so they subsidize those costs with cuts to other places, like shrinkflation in the US, and other places. Costs went up to ship their foodstuffs all over the world, buuuut they enabled tipping at POS in the US, getting poor suckers to make up the difference (they hope)

Not an excuse, but if the US put in place the same things the UK has, fast food would lose their biggest cost subsidy for more expensive places like the UK, and prices would actually go up (because the corpo suits can’t take a fuckin pay cut obviously!)

There’s a host of rules to agree to, some of them are pretty silly, and are in place to keep the brand “pure”. “You don’t choose a Ferrari, Ferrari chooses you”

You have to prove you can afford a Ferrari by buying 2 other cars, “Honda Accord or better”. (This guarantees you have other cars to drive if the car is damaged, and proves status via taking care of 3 cars)

They do have an approved list of colors, just that red is iconic, and they want to do the paint themselves.

You can’t sell it in the first year. And if you own a Lamborghini you will be turned down. You can’t debadge it/alter the prancing pony because they “sold it to you perfect!”

Visit the factory/attend Ferrari events. Be part of the Family. And family is modest. Don’t be a shitty influencer constantly flashing your car.

Generally yes, they tell people not to repaint them and if they do there’s a sternly worded letter to change it back. If you do not they won’t sell you another Ferrari. You could find someone to sell you one, but anyone who third party sells a Ferrari is also blacklisted. (Since all sales technically involve you selling it back to Ferrari, then THEY sell it to the person)

You also agree to these terms (painting, not debadging, etc) when you bought the car. There have been some examples where Ferrari even sued over “use of vehicle for malicious intent”

I’d watch the shit outta that with some popcorn. Between the logic jumps and the mandatory hand-waving of actual evidence to the contrary, and sheer numbers of fallacies to make the argument make sense it sounds like a hella entertaining time

Aye, fuck spez