So many Americans believe that the inmates deserve this treatment because they are inmates. There is no compassion for the incarcerated.

You know they will. They don’t care what people want.

I think they are trying to flood the market with cheaper foreign workers that business owners have more control over so they can lower the wages of everyone else. More Americans will be out of work as they are replace by H1Bs. They’ll have to accept lower pay and less benefits to continue in tech or switch careers which is hard. The H1Bs will eventually be hated especially among MAGA and it won’t be their fault as they are just pawns in this Lex Luther wannabe’s world view. The quality of software will drop because you get what you pay for. Maybe Trump or Musk will do something stupid and piss off India (maybe a tariff or trade war) and I assume the Indians worldwide will side with India mostly which can lead to more compromises in our critical software.

So I think it will be like when manufacturing jobs were shipped to China and look how that turned out for American workers, goods, and security.

Man you should see how the stock market reacts. Gonna be a roller coaster presidency.

I’m not the one who made the claim. I just asked for the source.

So it’s anecdotal.

Where are you getting this data about what these refugees have left in Ukraine?

Do you know the public backlash Biden would get for saving the Boston Bomber or the white supremacist who shot up a black church?

I’m not the one who made the claim. Do you have proof that any of it was foreign aid?

Is any of that foreign aid or are the Russians purchasing equipment and manpower?

Any member, including and especially the US, can block prospective members from entering NATO. Also you can’t join the alliance while you’re in the middle of a conflict.

I don’t know how they can claim Ukraine is winning when they’re being supported heavily by foreign aid.

Is this some type of fiction? Like these people are making some fan fiction right?

They sure LOVED having the US as an ally when they were getting their asses handed to them during WW1 and WW2.

I don’t side with people who deal in absolutes. You’re disingenuous.

I did read up on the Budapest Memorandum and what you stated is FALSE. That document states that Ukraine (along with Belarus and Kazakhstan) are now parties to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons. The US, UK, and Russia have agreed to:

• Respect the signatory’s independence and sovereignty in the existing borders
• Refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of the signatories to the memorandum, and undertake that none of their weapons will ever be used against these countries, except in cases of self-defense
• Refrain from economic coercion designed to subordinate to their own interest the exercise by Ukraine, the Republic of Belarus and Kazakhstan of the rights inherent in its sovereignty
• Seek immediate Security Council action to provide assistance to the signatory if they “should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used”
• Not to use nuclear weapons against any non–nuclear-weapon state party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, except in the case of an attack on themselves
• Consult with one another if questions arise regarding those commitments

There is nowhere in this Memorandum that states that the US is obligated to render aid or defend the Ukraine. So when you stated:

The US already ignored it a couple of times actually.

Explain. How did the US ignore the Memorandum (that is not a treaty)? What incidents were they and when did they occur?

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How can the US be considered a traitorous country when we have no formal treaty with Ukraine. Ukraine isn’t part of NATO and we have no defense pact with them. Aide is assistance and it can be withdrawn at any point for any reason. But let me ask you a question. Would you call the US a traitorous country if we withdrew support for Israel? Is it only traitorous if the US stop supporting the wars you want?

I see what you’re trying to say and I agree but this isn’t the right echo chamber to be talking like that.

I predict that soon there will be legislation outlawing the removal of unique identifiers on articles of clothing.