If I hear anyone ranting about family/traditional values Im just going to cut to the chase and assume you consume Russian origin propaganda by the barrel-load. Nobody pushes that stuff harder than them. No one stands to gain from the chaos it creates in the west, more than them.

Yeah im gonna be blunt here, People who are seen as important, die all over the world every day, and Im having trouble drawing a line to why Charlie Kirk has fuck all to do with anything in any country in Europe.

you know, two countries that might have a reason to be upset for losing someone who WAS important to them, would be Russia and Belarus

Broadly bombing enemies all over the world makes them more akin to America at its worst, which is its own problem.

Russia is far more old school in its methods and goals, their goals and behaivor is that out of the 16th thru 18th century. Naked land grabs.

Israel isnt about territory and empire builiding outside of its immediate periphery, its just about aggressively neutralizing everything that they even remotely think will be a threat to them now or in 30 years.

Similar in execution. Much smaller in scale of areas theyre targeting for expansion

It might have been reversed recentley, but very recentley Domestic abuse was basically allowed in Russia, Police rarely responded to calls from women saying their partners were beating the hell out of them, some ended up dead.

and the law that allowed it, was pushed by a “traditional values” Woman lawmaker.

America is Just going to become Russia that speaks English.

While it has its own disgusting traits that are unique to itself, Russia under the Yednaya Rossiya Party / Putin Mafia is by far the closest contemporary thing to Nazi Germany today.

I had a feeling that was why the NOTAMs were issued. I suspected they were going to finally shoot shit down.

The US/Israeli partnership is in many ways, a Mirror of Russia.

do we just call these an american equivalent of Kadyrovites?

NATO and Russia have been in a state of war for a long time now. it could have been as early as 2014, but defintley since 2022.

the difference is the war isn’t directley Kinetic, but we’re getting there, this is a small step up the escalatory ladder. We aren’t quite at the level Turkey was though, shooting down VKS jets and Killing Pilots

I was an intel guy most of my life, Intel on all the hand-me-downs I got from my grandfather’s appliance store, Intel on my first gaming PC in 2008 til 2012, Intel on the 2012-2019 PC, it wasn’t until I built my current PC in 2019 that I Switched because of the Meltdown / Spectre / Etc issues, largely just out of reputation not actually understanding them.

Sufficed to say, I left in 2019 and have had no reason to return.

That’s a really sharp observation…
You’re not alone in thinking this… No, youre not imagining things…

“This is what gpt will say anytime you say anything thats remotely controversial to anyone”

And then it will turn around and vehemently argue against facts of real events that happened recentley . Like its perpetually 6 months behind. It still thought that Biden was president and Assad was still in power in syria the other day

Western media took two ongoing genocides. Committed by Israel and Russia. And swept both under the rug under a wave of contrarian bullshit

I missed the word “the equivalent of” and thought Russia joinint NATO was part of the dicussion and flagged China/Europe as far less far fetched than Europe BRICS or Russian NATO.

in-roads with China is far and away a more realistic scenario than the other two.

So long as Russia is involved, Europe and Russia are de-facto at war. and are mutually incompatible with each other.

Canada was still Loyalist British territory. Canada would have been on the opposite side of US and France.

Canada was also not a sovereign nation at that point, It was still multiple colonial territories. What became of Canada was essentially the territory that remained loyalist during the revolution, or territory the rebels americans failed to take.

so in other words, Canada didnt exist back then, it was just Loyalist Colonials and the British vs Rebel Colonials and the French. amongst other minor participants german mercenaries, dutch, natives etc

Canadian here. your statement is categorically false.

America was our enemy up until around the 1900s. the colonies that became Canada were loyalist, IE, opposed to the secessionist revolution. And we were also invaded by America in 1812. There may have also been plans for a second invasion in the 1860/1870 after the Civil War.

It wasn’t until about the first world war that we were even remotely allied. and even then, Canada went to war first in both world wars. only to be joined by America 2-3 years later. We were not formal allies until we founded NATO together.

Argument doesn’t compute with these people. They believe in realpolotik and “realism”

Aka. Russia has nukes. So they get to do what they want. So does America

Belarus is already taken. Fully.

It benefits Russia to keep Belarus as a phoney, pretend sovereign state because its another vote and voice in international matters, it lends legitimacy to their arguments when they’re at a stage like the UN and fighting with whomever, to have a bunch of warlord states voting alongside them.

Treaties dont matter when your enemy doesnt respect them,

Russias conditions for peace are surrender, and surrender is death. The Russian army has from day 1, displayed that their intention is ethnic cleansing.

No, Trumps team will insist on going forward with the deal they arranged with Vlad. Europe (which includes Ukraine) will say fuck that, and team Trump will then use it as political ammo to justifiy more tarriffs and more energy into the Asia pivot. IE they will say they’re pulling out and leaving Russia to have its fun.