It doesn’t seem to be helping. If I ever work out a more reliable way to get steps counted I’ll let you know. I know some pedometer apps don’t need Google Play Services and use a persistant notification to keep it active, but it seems like quite a significant change from what you currently have which wouldn’t be worth spending time on to appease such a small group of users.
If Google Play Services aren’t on there, the Recording API will not count steps in the background.
That makes a lot of sense.
Probably easiest solution is to let WalkScape to run in the background, when it’s freezed the battery consumption should be basically nothing.
It’s allowed to run in the background, but I have now disabled battery optimisation and will see if that helps.
From my understanding, any app installed directly from Google Play should be in the sandbox and have access to Google Play Services. I haven’t quite worked out where the steps are missing, but it seems when the game is open it’s fine, and when the game hasn’t been killed by the OS it’s also fine. If I go back to the game and it has to launch again from scratch, it doesn’t seem to count steps that happened while the game wasn’t running (foreground or background).
I also see this post where others are seeing the same thing, and are not using GrapheneOS. Maybe my use of GrapheneOS is a red herring and there’s actually something else happening.
It was always odd to me that apps need to be constantly active to get the steps. I don’t get why the phone doesn’t just count in the background then allow you to request “how many steps today” or “how many steps since X date/time” via the API.
I’m using GrapheneOS and struggling to get the game to count steps when it’s not actively open. Anyone else using GrapheneOS and have any tips?
I thought I’d mention as it hasn’t been mentioned yet: the only way to install the game on Android is through Google Play. You also need to join a Google Group to get access on Google Play.
Yeah but looking back through, many people have issues where it doesn’t start, and there are some where it worked and then suddenly didn’t. The problem is there are lots of Linux setups, everyone has things a little different.
If it was some indie game I’d try harder, but it’s ubisoft and the problems seem to stem from their third party DRM crap so I’m not that enthused to give them money.
I’ve actually played through The Stick of Truth, many years ago. I seem to remember enjoying it. Fractured but whole has sat on my wish list for years because it seemed to have a high price for many years after its release and I also read some poor reviews.
I went to look it up again since you seem to think it’s pretty decent, but it seems it’s pretty hit or miss on linux (works great or doesn’t at all) because of all the ubisoft crap. I guess I can give it a go and refund it if it doesn’t work, but all the extra DRM crap is a bit off putting.
I heard Fractured but whole isn’t as good. Thoughts?
They have talked a bit about what they are trying to do. It’s backed by Silicon Valley billionaire Eron Wolf, and he has talked about his frustration with everyone putting their blood, sweat, and tears into the software and then someone like Facebook comes along and makes billions from the work of others.
I get it’s frustrating, but personally I think it fails to see that Facebook is part of the ecosystem, but also so are many small companies, and many of these are contributing back to the software. If you remove the companies then you have removed a significant source of help. Eron wants to replace this with an expectation that people pay for their software, he wants to normalise paying for OSS so OSS doesn’t have to rely on the companies. You can see this in how FUTO keyboard using language implying you need to pay to get a license, but also it holds no features back from you and doesn’t nag if you don’t pay.
Personally I welcome new ways of thinking but even if the pay for your OSS thing works I think companies are uniquely placed to contribute in ways that a small team relying on purchases is never going to be able to replicate.
I don’t hold any ill will though, I think their heart is in the right place, albeit having missed what makes FOSS special.
Haha yeah I do find the licence a bit weird. Kind of a non-commercial licence but there are definitely some parts that I don’t quite get.
I have seen Eron Wolf talking a bit about what he is trying to do. I get his frustrations, but am not convinced their licence helps with those at all. You can’t really take open source, take away some freedoms that are sometimes taken advantage of, and pretend that removing those freedoms didn’t remove the benefits that are the reason those freedoms existed in the first place.
Typically licenses not OSI approved are referred to as “Source available” rather than “Open source”. This is one reason FUTO (who make Grayjay) refer to their license as “Source first” and not “Open Source” (though they did call it that for a while before clarifying and switching to the new term).
Sounds good!
Perhaps take on board the comments on this post, draft up a proposed template on the repo, and then perhaps do a new post asking for feedback? Is it worth creating a community for those interested to follow if they want to discuss, ask questions, propose ideas, etc, or is that better done on the repo?
I’m wondering if the git option is best? A public github repo is a bit more permanent, means it stays available into the future even if it stops getting maintained.
The main issue with that is the technical hurdle for contributing, but I don’t see why people can’t comment on this post or future ones with comments if they don’t want to do a pull request.
I prefer that over the Google docs option, and Lemmy comments are good for discussion but I think we need an “official” place to point people to. We can still discuss on Lemmy before making updates.
Correct, racing busses is still legal (for now).
I’m going to be away for a few days, but I’ll see about listing out these new questions and other changes. Maybe we can put them somewhere to make it easier to collaborate and track changes?
That sounds like a good idea. Any thoughts on where?
For our census I self-hosted Lime Survey (using this not-official docker image). Took a little bit of working out but I think the survey worked out quite good. There are lots of options to pick through, including various levels of privacy settings, and I’ve also run some other community surveys using it in the past.
I like this idea. Getting some sort of insights into Lemmy.
I saw another comment suggesting various things that it would be fun to know about the community. These surveys aren’t just a view into an instance, but the lemmy.ca and lemmy.nz surveys have been cited many times as they are some of the only info we have about Lemmy as a whole.
I was thinking we should have base questions, ones that we want to watch for changes over time. And then others that could be a snapshot insight that give us a glimpse into Lemmy with an understanding that people don’t want to spend an hour filling in the survey so we can’t ask everything.
I think the question list you have is a good set of base questions, and I don’t think there are any you’ve suggested that shouldn’t be asked each year. So I propose we pick a couple of extra questions. I think it would be nice for everyone to use the same questions and see differences across instances, but also using different ones per instance gives us wider insights. So I could be persuaded either way. The kind of things that @hendrik@palaver.p3x.de suggested, like whether people mostly use Subscribed, Local, or All feeds (mindful these might have different names in different apps/frontends). Or OS they use, etc. Just making sure it’s only one or two questions so it’s not putting people off doing the survey by making it too long.
Now to your question:
For self-identification, free text means people are more likely to write what they actually want instead of trying to push themselves into the box of listed options, even if there is an Other option. However, it’s also a lot of work to group things, and things need to be grouped to make any decent result visualisation. Plus people should be allowed to group themselves instead of me doing it. So I suggest a predefined list with an Other free-text option.
I think this is the case for the other similar things you list as well. For ethnicity, for our survey we used the actual list from the NZ Stats department. It has been carefully refined over years, there’s no reason to think we could do any better. But of course our list would not be very helpful for other countries, so for region-based instances, maybe something similar can be found from that region.
The disability question was quite tricky to work out how to put into a chart. People can have multiple, but then you don’t really want them showing 10 times. I think I’d like to have a pre-defined list next time, with an Other free text option as well. Let people put themselves into their own categories instead of me trying to push them into groups.
For the fun question, what I like about Favourite Dessert is how groups of people are likely to tend towards certain answers, but different groups of people can tend towards quite different things (especially when it’s regional). Favourite Comfort Food could be a good one, but it might be nice not to do food again. I’ll let others suggest some things. I will note that I think this Fun question is different from the suggestion above to have snapshot questions to get insights into Lemmy. Having “What OS do you use” is a census question, “What is your favourite dessert” is a fun question. I think we should have both.
If they’ve ditching Facebook for WhatsApp then this is literally true.
Yeah I can imagine trying to do it manually could get pretty tricky. I’ll look forward to the smart watch support (though I don’t own one, I might get one if others report it working well with GrapheneOS).
It seems it’s already set to not be optimized. It doesn’t seem to have access to the physical activity permission, but granting that permission didn’t seem to help. It still doesn’t count steps with the screen off.
No matter, thanks for all the ideas, I’ll just keep watching and see if others find a solution. I’ve subscribed to the Walkscape community so hopefully you’ll be posting updates there 🙂