In the immediate aftermath of the ICE killing of Renée Good in Minneapolis last week, the Trump administration smeared her as a “domestic terrorist,” claiming that she had weaponized her vehicle. They labeled Good a “violent rioter” and insisted every new video angle proved their version of the truth: Good was a menace and the ICE agent a potential victim. That’s despite video evidence to the contrary, showing Good, by all appearances, trying to leave the scene of the altercation, while ICE agents acted aggressively. Kristi Noem, the Secretary of Homeland Security, spent Sunday doubling down, insisting that Good had supposedly been “breaking the law by impeding and obstructing a law enforcement operation.”

So, on Sunday, I joined the throng in Manhattan for one of many dozens of protests held around the country this past weekend. In the middle of Fifth Avenue, surrounded by raucous, defiant New Yorkers, I asked protesters the simple question: What did you see?

“I mean, it seems like the bottomless, self-radicalizing thing that the government is going through,” said Anne Perryman, 85, a former journalist. “Is there any point when they’re actually at the bottom, and they’re not going to get any worse? I don’t think so.”

“I think there’s a small minority of Americans who are buying that,” said Kobe Amos, a 29-year-old lawyer, describing reactions to the government’s gaslighting. “It’s obviously enough to do a lot of damage. But if you look around, people are angry.”

“I saw an agent that overreacted,” he added, “and did something that was what—I think it’s murder.”

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    I’ve seen large groups of people pushing a few agents off from abducting some latinos, and it works. I’ve seen probably 5 different videos in the last few months of that. It actually works to save people from being disappeared when we have the numbers.

    Where is your red line for getting “serious”? When he cancels midterms or otherwise rigs it against any Democrats? What they just ignore the courts (as they’ve done a bunch of times in other areas).

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        Everyone should determine where their own line is that, once the regime crosses it, they go into “fuck this we’re changing it” mode. Crossing the Rubicon type stuff. It’s important to make that red line ahead of time because otherwise you can get lulled into inaction since they do things just a little worse and worse so you’re the boiling frog. There’s a “They Thought They Were Free” quote about this, where they descended into genocide little by little, causing no one to push back.

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      I have no idea what you mean by “serious,” only that you clearly mean something different by that word than I do, to the point that you offer it in quotes as though it is your euphemism for something else. Go ahead and define it if you want to discuss it.

      And I have no idea what you mean by “red line” either. A line suggests a point at which I will change from one position to another, but I’ve repeatedly and explicitly stated my positions without generalities all along. Why do you have such difficulty stating what you plainly mean? Just go ahead and say it. What are you referring to by “red line”?

      EDITED TO ADD: You know what, never mind. I’ve reread your comments and you are clearly just advocating for violence. Get lost. Blocking you now.