• dogbert@lemmy.zipOP
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    4 days ago

    Trump has escalated the level of brazenness with which we’ll do it

    “video of his last moments shows rebel fighters dragging Gaddafi out of a drainage pipe, beating him and one of them sodomizing him with a bayonet before he was shot several times.”

    Here’s a video of Hillary Clinton laughing about it: https://youtu.be/6DXDU48RHLU

    Pretty brazen my friend… I’d say Maduro got off pretty light.

    I can absolutely concede that Trump is doing bad things in his own unique way. I just think comparably it’s not that different than the status quo, and the reaction from white Americans on this topic is hard to take seriously at times.

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      4 days ago

      I know all about how Gaddafi died and how the Clintons are sociopaths. Doesn’t change the fact that unilaterally kidnapping Maduro is a new level of brazen, because it removes even the weak normative barriers that were in place before, when the US at least tried to manufacture consensus for its bullshit. You will undoubtedly claim that doesn’t matter, but it does. Trump has lowered the internationally accepted barrier to foreign fuckery in a way that will have lasting ramifications.

      Most of the people ICE has killed this year alone aren’t white.

      I’m not white.

      Again, saying Trump is worse doesn’t mean America was good before.

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        3 days ago

        Seems like you care more about decorum and appearances than actual human lives. “At least previous administrations summarily executed wedding attendants without being brazen about it!”

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        4 days ago

        “At least they used to brainwash us before they did regime change!”

        Really illuminates where your priorities lay. You miss Americans being soothed into imperialism. I can promise you, the victims of these crimes were not soothed into their demise. Do you think the people of these foreign nations give a fuck about how good Americans feel about murdering them?

        This is an infantile degeneracy and I urge you to seek personal growth and reflect on these opinions.