• Dessalines@lemmy.ml
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    7 days ago

    Broad estimates of US war victims range up to 12 million (a liberal estimate), whereas the Nazis killed over 13 million through mass killings alone (eg the Holocaust + exterminated minorities). The Soviet Union alone lost 20 to 27 million depending on who you ask.

    In addition to the 500k-millions of native peoples and hundreds of tribes the US systematically nearly eradicated, lets take just a few more examples.

    • Vietnam: 1.5M killed
    • Laos: 300k
    • Iraq: 1M
    • Indonesia: 500k-1M
    • Korea: 500k
    • Japan: 200k-1M in civilian bombings

    And I haven’t even started on operation condor and latin america yet.

    • Not disputing that, but Nazi Germany trumps that in numbers easily. If we take the upper estimates of these you get 5.5 million people (only half of the liberally estimated total of 12 million).

      Again, I’m not disputing how horrible this all is, but it’s just not the same. This is decades of US warfare compared to just 6-9 years of Nazi Germany. And the comparison gets even worse considering world population at the time was much lower than it is now.

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        Bro just admit it, US is the OG third Reich. It was literally founded on Genocide and kept doing it until the Native population became irrelevant. The Nazis literally planned Lebensraum after being inspired by ‘Manifest Destiny’ and modeled the Nuremberg laws after the Jim Crow. I suggest you read a book.

      • DeepSpace9mm@lemmy.ml
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        7 days ago

        I hope you take a moment and reflect on why you insist on approaching comparative history in this way.

        • I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world
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          7 days ago

          Maybe it’s because this is a comment thread about comparative history being performed in the same manner?

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            6 days ago

            The post does not go into kill counts as a direct comparison. It simply states that the us will be remembered as worse than nazi germany. So no, that is not the reason. I’m calling out your behavior specifically as problematic.

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        7 days ago

        Sounds like they are in good company, millions is millions, but I’d argue America has committed more genocides.