I’ve been using Debian (and formerly Ubuntu) for many years.

But I’ve been wanting to tell people that I use Arch.

I’ve been considering the following distros:

  • Arch
  • Cachy
  • Manjaro
  • Any others?

I’m leaning towards Arch or Cachy. This is for a mediocre laptop that I’m planning to use as a media center: Kodi, Retroarch, Steam, etc. Should I even be using Arch for this? Maybe Debian is more stable…

Sorry if this has been asked before. Thanks for any tips!

  • vaionko@sopuli.xyz
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    2 hours ago

    Just plain Arch, been using it for the past 5 years. Haven’t told anyone unless askes though.

  • inzen@lemmy.world
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    4 hours ago

    I use cachy os for the optimizations on modern hardware and access to newer packages. I use it on ny pc for gaming and laptop for development. I find it more convenient than arch. But I can’t say if it is better.

  • glitching@lemmy.ml
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    4 hours ago

    can someone who runs arch btw on weak hardware, like dual-core U-series i5 and such, tell me how they’re handling AUR and friends? every time I bring that up I get downvotes as if I’m some MICROS~1 agent paid to besmirch arch btw’s good name and whatnot…

    the idea that I hafta build and compile shit on a puny dual-core in 2026 is fucking ludicrous to me, never mind the bloat and cruft from all the build tools and deps for every possible stack. so what obvious solution am I missing? like, how do you handle a full system upgrade, say you got like ten things from AUR in addition to regular packages, what does that look like?

    • spacemanspiffy@lemmy.world
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      3 hours ago

      One suggestion is to look for -bin versions of the packages you want. Those are precompiled and should install only marginally slower than a regular pacman package.

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        3 hours ago

        first time I heard of this, thanks. so running it thusly it’s no different than a copr or apt repo?

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          2 hours ago

          Not quite as that its user-created and submitted.

          But yeah lots of packages have a -bin counterpart that will install a lot quicker than compiling it for yourself.

  • ☭SaltyIcetea☭@lemmy.ml
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    4 hours ago

    aight let me tell you MY arch experience. itll be a long one.

    i first installed arch with the install script and later manually, i ran this setup for quite some time, and as time goes, small erros cascade into bigger ones. it got to the point where i was reconfiguring system configs every week to fix something that broke from an update. the thing that ultimately caused the most trouble was converting my existing ext4 system to btrfs. this caused all sorts of issue primarily with gaming performance (i had to disable cpu boosting in order to not have constant lag spikes for example). this old system was a mess held together with duct tape and hope, it broke with EVERY update, and not at small scales. at some point i had to reinstall grub everytime i changed something in my boot order. Ultimately i decided 2 days ago it was time for a reinstall. i tried installing it normally, i followed the official install instructions and got greeted by a grub shell. i fucked something up during the install, so i decided fuck it, i will use archinstall script again. then it took me legit 6 hours to get my system running in a way i could use it, tgen the next day an additional 3 to get everything set up so i can game with proper OBS recording and all.

    now i have a perfectly functioning Arch setup. and a lot more performance (even tho the setup should be the same, like i really dont know what was wrong with my old setup)

    arch WILL be a hassle at some point. in turn you get bleeding edge packages, no bloat, complete customisation, a great learning opportunity, the AUR, and (if properly set up) great performance.

    i like arch. i wouldnt use anything else.

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    3 hours ago

    Manjaro is the best, but you’ll have to see it for yourself.

    Don’t trust the “wisdom of the crowd.” It does not exist.

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    6 hours ago

    I use Arch. I haven’t tried Endeavour or Cachy as Arch just works for me. That’s not to say I had an easy time installing it as my first Linux distro after leaving Windows, but after reading through the wiki and installing it a couple times in my PC, I like how much control over my system it gives me.

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    16 hours ago

    Stay away from Manjaro.

    I’ve heard great things about Endeavor and Cachy, but personally use Garuda. Highly recommend it.

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      11 hours ago

      Tried Manjaro for a few months before it broke. EndeavourOS has been treating me well for about a year now.

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    11 hours ago

    I tried it, liked it, bricked my system, and now I enjoy EndeavourOS because it’s simple and easy.

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    18 hours ago

    EndeavourOS. It’s like Arch, but a bit easier with a few automation and gui stuff builtin. It’s still heavy on terminal usage and it comes light out of the box. I switched from Manjaro to EndeavourOS, because Manjaro gave me some problems (especially their package manager and because of the AUR too, and I didn’t like the maintainers, no further comment). It’s my daily driver for years now. I use it for everything, daily usage, little programming, gaming on Steam and especially RetroArch too. I’m a huge RetroArch fan. :-) So if you plan to use base Archlinux or Manjaro, then I can recommend to use EndeavourOS a lot.

    Cachy OS is probably a good choice too, because their focus on performance optimizations. But they do also have a bit more, let’s say bloat, out of the box and their branding is a bit strong it seems. It’s a bit farther away from base Archlinux than EndeavourOS is.

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        13 hours ago

        I was teaching a friend Linux, by ways of running through the manual Arch installation process and finally got to be on the other side of the ‘Ok, now that we’ve spent a ton of time doing this the hard way, here(endeavorOS) is how you use tools to do it in 3 seconds’.

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    17 hours ago

    i use cachyos, runs swimmingly for me. I’m not sure arch is good for your usecase tho.

    Mediacenter/homeserver? I’d personally choose something like fedora, but debian sounds fine too

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      4 hours ago

      I use cachyos on my homelab/media server, but that’s mostly because I’ve got more familiarity with it, which makes troubleshooting easier

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      15 hours ago

      I used to be a diehard Fedora user and suggested it to everyone. Then they started allowing AI generated code, and I flipped. Moved to CachyOS on both my PC and Laptop, and they have been incredibly solid for about 3 months now.

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    22 hours ago

    EndeavorOS is my go to for arch based systems. But with the archinstall script I’d say just give vanilla a go

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    22 hours ago

    I was using Endeavour, btw. Needed almost zero tinkering and was good to go straight away.

    But I run Linux on an ancient 2012 MacBook Pro, so eventually swapped over to Debian, btw.

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      15 hours ago

      I’m interested in what you’ve done withe the MBPro. I have the same thing and I’ve been wanting to do something with it since it still seems like a solid platform.

      What made you switch to Debian?

      Also what do you use the computer for?

      • HexagonSun@lemmy.zip
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        11 hours ago

        For the reasons I switched to Debian see my other reply.

        I use the computer for:

        • Learning and understanding Linux, in the broader sense. It’s a “spare” computer and over the past 3 years I’ve installed Ubuntu Budgie, Ubuntu Gnome, Pop! OS, Spiral Linux, G4OS, Linux Mint, LMDE, Spiral Linux, Debian, EndeavourOS, Fedora, Garuda… and I’ve failed to install (wouldn’t boot to live USB, or wouldn’t boot after installation) many more, including Void, PikaOS, MX Linux, OpenSUSE, and probably a few others…
        • Playing old games. I’ve got a steam deck, but for things like Return To Castle Wolfenstein and the Settlers II you just need a mouse and keyboard. Lutris has been awesome.

        If you have a 15” Retina MBP, it’s been a huge pain in the ass, and multiple distros just stopped working after updates, often not long after installation. But also it’s been a good learning experience for the very same same reason. To work well in 2026 it needs the Nvidia graphics disabling - but the NVRAM defaults that Mac to Nvidia at startup for Linux, so even that bit isn’t straightforward! If you simply blacklist Nvidia it won’t boot.

        I also bought a USB WiFi adapter as the Broadcom card doesn’t work initially on most distros, and can’t support WPA3 even when it does work.

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      18 hours ago

      Why did you change from Endeavour to Debian? Didn’t it work well on the MacBook you have? Just curious, no judging.

      • HexagonSun@lemmy.zip
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        Endeavour worked totally fine, no issues whatsoever… or no issue where Debian does better at least.

        My 2 main reasons were:

        1. Ignorance over the point at which hardware components become so old and deprecated that bleeding edge updates might just break something one day. Couldn’t find a definitive answer, but I knew if Debian 13 works fine now it should still be working fine in 2 years. That Mac has outdated Intel/Nvidia graphics that have always been problematic on Linux, and many distros won’t even boot the live USB on it, so it felt like if any computer was ever going to spontaneously have a post-update issue it would probably be that one.

        2. Trying the give my ageing hardware the easiest ride in its senior years. The SSD is still original and approaching 14 years of pretty heavy use, so I thought to have it surviving as long as possible an OS that might only give 0-300MB of updates in a week would be a safer bet than an OS that would have many many more gigabytes of updates over a longer period of time.

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          17 hours ago

          Thanks for the explanation. That reminds me an issue. I changed my default gamepad.

          At least one issue with EndeavourOS I had in the past (and that’s not an issue with the distribution, but with the model of having newest Kernel) was that the newest Kernel sometimes broke the driver for my gamepad, XBox One S proprietary dongle using medusalix xone driver from AUR to be specific. So I had to wait sometimes days or longer until the driver was updated in order to use the controller. This issue could be avoided when using an LTS Kernel instead, which is very easy to setup in EndeavourOS as it comes with such a GUI.

          Your given arguments makes lot of sense. So it is about stability (in the sense of not changing, not about bugs). So you seek a setup and forget installation, which is understandable and maybe would have preferred doing so too in your case.

          • HexagonSun@lemmy.zip
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            16 hours ago

            Yes, at this stage. Although before now I’ve installed a few different things over the last couple of years as a learning experience also.

            It’s not my main computer, but one I replaced. This freed me up to have a computer with no music or photos or anything on it, so I could test different distros and DEs and troubleshoot stuff without having any concerns about losing anything if I made a mistake or just erased and started over.

            I’d never actually used Linux before 2023, much more familiar now.