The chances of him facing actual charges after Trump dies is actually very high.
When the administration shatters and everyone is scrambling to shift blame knowing their free-pass to immunity has disappeared, they will desperately need some high-level cabinet member to point at, and this may come as a shock to everyone… but Stephen Miller is not very likeable.
Everyone hates this guy, he is as cringe and annoying in real life as he is on camera, everyone says it. The only reason he’s there is because he learned who he can wormtongue to climb in power, and found the ultimate cursed husk to puppeteer in Trump. They will delight in throwing his gangly limbs under the bus.
Yeah one can only hope. I have low confidence that anything will happen to anyone when the regime falls because “we must move on with unity and forgiveness” or some shit that Democrats will say.
It really depends on how successful the midterms are at flushing out the establishment Dems in power in house and senate, they are sweating right now because the last wave of local elections REALLY ran against the mainstream grain. Dems have been pushing back on electing open socialists and reformists running under the DNC brand, and instead of successfully squashing these runs down, they failed across the board at stopping grassroots movements.
If Midterms flip the legislative branch significantly AND Trump can’t finish his term, we may see a wild swing back in the other direction.
The Democrats are just a container, they’re only as strong in obstruction to change as their oldest old-money liches like Schumer and other withered old husks who’ve had their seats and committee positions for like, 3,000 years.
I have little faith the regime will allow free and fair elections. They’ve done so much evil to get to this point, they’re wouldn’t dare risk actually letting the will of the people be carried out.
I expect this summer and fall to be the worst in my lifetime, because things are gonna get heavy.
They’re proving over and over again they don’t have control over much, if they did we wouldn’t have seen so many leftists, dems and open socialists take lead of cities and states last cycle. They tried too.
The problem for them that both they and us often forget about is that the USA isn’t one big country like Iran or Venezuela that can have their entire election system rigged by one small group. USA is 50 individual states. Remember, “State” basically means “nation.”
We have 50 individual nations with their own security, their own election systems, their own laws and rules. It takes a MASSIVE effort to go everywhere in this landscape, and even if they had the balls to risk something that big, they don’t have the manpower.
Not saying it’s impossible for them to fuck it all up, they will absolutely try. But I don’t think their success rate is nearly as high as they want you to think it is. They want you say “What good is it” and throw your hands up. They did more to suggest that they’re going to cheat than actual cheating because they want people to feel powerless. We’re not powerless, we still have 50 different nations with different agendas and people.
It’s not that simple, the “machines” aren’t like internet apps (until we allow congress to approve some form of Grok-powered voting app) they’re basically just digital printers that each state checks and validates are working on their own terms.
They WANT to control the machines and create some system to use that control to rig any election, but again, if they COULD do that yet, they would have already. There is no reason to think they have the power yet to override our will, we are a huge nation with a LOT of people, this isn’t quite yet a banana republic, so please discourage yourself from saying it’s hopeless and pointless to vote, especially around others.
People are starving for an excuse to roll over and stop trying. Seriously, I’ve never seen our nation so ready to just give up and cry. Everyone is lost and alone and desperate for the one thing they’re most scared of, which is reaching out to others and connecting and organizing. Be a force that resists this urge.
When did I say “don’t vote”. Always vote in every election, there’s usually one or a few each year on smaller things.
When did I say stop trying? Reading comprehension on social media has really gone to shit, I’ve seen so many responses to random things that the OP never said. You started talking about a different thing that no one said.
There’s a lot of normal things going on that useful idiots online and Russian/Chinese/etc. agitators exploit and spread to discredit elections and cause the US to implode, BUT ALSO there are fucky things going on. Two things can be true, and the reality is nuanced and complex.
If anything this should cause more people to get involved in the end-to-end voting process to understand and protect it. MAGA has fully infiltrated the voting process since their election denial stuff in 2020, but now they have wide-spanning infrastructure and both bottom-up and top-down support in the election process at many administrative levels. I don’t trust the guy who has lied and cheated his whole life, who tried to steal an election already, who partnered with the richest person in the history of the world who owns a massive tech empire, who already said they know the voting machines, who stayed in PA for months before the election, who hires people that have extensive voting machine programming history, who now has ALL of our personal data through exfiltration during DOGE, who also partners with the other massive tech titans that also seek to destroy the current America and rebuild according to Curtis Yarvin and Peter Thiel, to run a free and fair election.
Either you aren’t informed or you don’t care. We need to be fighting this with every person, every day, because fascism is here and they’ve come too far to not risk everything to stay in power.
When did I say stop trying? Reading comprehension on social media has really gone to shit,
Add yourself to that list bucko.
I didn’t say you said that, I said people are looking for excuses to check out of voting. You didn’t even give me anything to work on, you said ONE fucking paragraph that implied votes would be compromised, which I pushed back on.
This is what you said, I said there’s hope.
Conservative billionaires own like 70% of the voting and tabulation machines. It’s only 2 companies.
I’m not reading the rest if you are gonna lay down a contentious essay because I made a MILD fucking pushback against apathy. If you’re looking for someone to get mad at, don’t pick people who are actually advocating for involvement, it feels like you’re setting yourself up to get pissy and that’s not effective messaging.
Get your reactionary impulses under fucking control. I won’t see responses, play for the “crowd” all you want.
No, they can’t get away with it this time, we’ve had enough. We’ve elected these Dems to fight for us, and they’d better do it, or they’ll meet the same date as the MAGAs. As it stands, they’re feckless behavior was 50% of the reason that MAGA regained power, and they’ll be lucky if some of them, like Schumer and Jeffries, don’t end up catching a few charges for their negligence, malpractice, and malfeasance.
Can you imagine if we let Hitler off the hook, and he rose to power again, only a few years later? We did that. If we expect America to be redeemed in the eyes of its Citizens, the World, and History, we cannot let it happen again. It will be imperative that we fully crush MAGA, declare it a National Security Threat, declare their leaders and active followers to be Domestic Terrorists, and purge them from our government and society.
America is not in the mood to tolerate any more Democratic weakness. If they aren’t willing to stand and fight, get the fuck out of the way.
…what, you mean they’ll gain control over the House, Senate, Presidency, and SCOTUS, and control all major media outlets, and enforce their will onto the world? MAGA isn’t meeting any fate…
Also Capital will never allow the people to fully crush MAGA because it fundamentally is pro-technofascism. The ultra-wealthy rulers will still be the same, so no real change will occur. Until we “remove” (interpret that in a legal way) those in power like Musk, Thiel, Andreeson, Horowitz, Karp, Kevin Roberts, and about a dozen others, the problem will remain.
The chances of him facing actual charges after Trump dies is actually very high.
When the administration shatters and everyone is scrambling to shift blame knowing their free-pass to immunity has disappeared, they will desperately need some high-level cabinet member to point at, and this may come as a shock to everyone… but Stephen Miller is not very likeable.
Everyone hates this guy, he is as cringe and annoying in real life as he is on camera, everyone says it. The only reason he’s there is because he learned who he can wormtongue to climb in power, and found the ultimate cursed husk to puppeteer in Trump. They will delight in throwing his gangly limbs under the bus.
Yeah one can only hope. I have low confidence that anything will happen to anyone when the regime falls because “we must move on with unity and forgiveness” or some shit that Democrats will say.
It really depends on how successful the midterms are at flushing out the establishment Dems in power in house and senate, they are sweating right now because the last wave of local elections REALLY ran against the mainstream grain. Dems have been pushing back on electing open socialists and reformists running under the DNC brand, and instead of successfully squashing these runs down, they failed across the board at stopping grassroots movements.
If Midterms flip the legislative branch significantly AND Trump can’t finish his term, we may see a wild swing back in the other direction.
The Democrats are just a container, they’re only as strong in obstruction to change as their oldest old-money liches like Schumer and other withered old husks who’ve had their seats and committee positions for like, 3,000 years.
I have little faith the regime will allow free and fair elections. They’ve done so much evil to get to this point, they’re wouldn’t dare risk actually letting the will of the people be carried out.
I expect this summer and fall to be the worst in my lifetime, because things are gonna get heavy.
They’re proving over and over again they don’t have control over much, if they did we wouldn’t have seen so many leftists, dems and open socialists take lead of cities and states last cycle. They tried too.
The problem for them that both they and us often forget about is that the USA isn’t one big country like Iran or Venezuela that can have their entire election system rigged by one small group. USA is 50 individual states. Remember, “State” basically means “nation.”
We have 50 individual nations with their own security, their own election systems, their own laws and rules. It takes a MASSIVE effort to go everywhere in this landscape, and even if they had the balls to risk something that big, they don’t have the manpower.
Not saying it’s impossible for them to fuck it all up, they will absolutely try. But I don’t think their success rate is nearly as high as they want you to think it is. They want you say “What good is it” and throw your hands up. They did more to suggest that they’re going to cheat than actual cheating because they want people to feel powerless. We’re not powerless, we still have 50 different nations with different agendas and people.
Conservative billionaires own like 70% of the voting and tabulation machines. It’s only 2 companies.
It’s not that simple, the “machines” aren’t like internet apps (until we allow congress to approve some form of Grok-powered voting app) they’re basically just digital printers that each state checks and validates are working on their own terms.
They WANT to control the machines and create some system to use that control to rig any election, but again, if they COULD do that yet, they would have already. There is no reason to think they have the power yet to override our will, we are a huge nation with a LOT of people, this isn’t quite yet a banana republic, so please discourage yourself from saying it’s hopeless and pointless to vote, especially around others.
People are starving for an excuse to roll over and stop trying. Seriously, I’ve never seen our nation so ready to just give up and cry. Everyone is lost and alone and desperate for the one thing they’re most scared of, which is reaching out to others and connecting and organizing. Be a force that resists this urge.
When did I say “don’t vote”. Always vote in every election, there’s usually one or a few each year on smaller things.
When did I say stop trying? Reading comprehension on social media has really gone to shit, I’ve seen so many responses to random things that the OP never said. You started talking about a different thing that no one said.
Voting machines were altered before the 2024 election with what the validator claims is “de minimis” meaning insignificant change, but in reality it was a substantial update to the config.ini file. Here’s one surface level source that can get you started if you want to learn more. SMART Elections looked into it.
There’s a lot of normal things going on that useful idiots online and Russian/Chinese/etc. agitators exploit and spread to discredit elections and cause the US to implode, BUT ALSO there are fucky things going on. Two things can be true, and the reality is nuanced and complex.
If anything this should cause more people to get involved in the end-to-end voting process to understand and protect it. MAGA has fully infiltrated the voting process since their election denial stuff in 2020, but now they have wide-spanning infrastructure and both bottom-up and top-down support in the election process at many administrative levels. I don’t trust the guy who has lied and cheated his whole life, who tried to steal an election already, who partnered with the richest person in the history of the world who owns a massive tech empire, who already said they know the voting machines, who stayed in PA for months before the election, who hires people that have extensive voting machine programming history, who now has ALL of our personal data through exfiltration during DOGE, who also partners with the other massive tech titans that also seek to destroy the current America and rebuild according to Curtis Yarvin and Peter Thiel, to run a free and fair election.
Either you aren’t informed or you don’t care. We need to be fighting this with every person, every day, because fascism is here and they’ve come too far to not risk everything to stay in power.
Add yourself to that list bucko.
I didn’t say you said that, I said people are looking for excuses to check out of voting. You didn’t even give me anything to work on, you said ONE fucking paragraph that implied votes would be compromised, which I pushed back on.
This is what you said, I said there’s hope.
I’m not reading the rest if you are gonna lay down a contentious essay because I made a MILD fucking pushback against apathy. If you’re looking for someone to get mad at, don’t pick people who are actually advocating for involvement, it feels like you’re setting yourself up to get pissy and that’s not effective messaging.
Get your reactionary impulses under fucking control. I won’t see responses, play for the “crowd” all you want.
No, they can’t get away with it this time, we’ve had enough. We’ve elected these Dems to fight for us, and they’d better do it, or they’ll meet the same date as the MAGAs. As it stands, they’re feckless behavior was 50% of the reason that MAGA regained power, and they’ll be lucky if some of them, like Schumer and Jeffries, don’t end up catching a few charges for their negligence, malpractice, and malfeasance.
Can you imagine if we let Hitler off the hook, and he rose to power again, only a few years later? We did that. If we expect America to be redeemed in the eyes of its Citizens, the World, and History, we cannot let it happen again. It will be imperative that we fully crush MAGA, declare it a National Security Threat, declare their leaders and active followers to be Domestic Terrorists, and purge them from our government and society.
America is not in the mood to tolerate any more Democratic weakness. If they aren’t willing to stand and fight, get the fuck out of the way.
…what, you mean they’ll gain control over the House, Senate, Presidency, and SCOTUS, and control all major media outlets, and enforce their will onto the world? MAGA isn’t meeting any fate…
Also Capital will never allow the people to fully crush MAGA because it fundamentally is pro-technofascism. The ultra-wealthy rulers will still be the same, so no real change will occur. Until we “remove” (interpret that in a legal way) those in power like Musk, Thiel, Andreeson, Horowitz, Karp, Kevin Roberts, and about a dozen others, the problem will remain.
The first thing we have to do to stop the Sociopathic Oligarchs is to destroy their vehicle, which is MAGA.
Once they are walking, we can force them to face responsibility for their behavior.
Always remember, there are a LOT more of us, than them. A LOT more. They are very aware of it. They know that when we realize it, they are fucked.
That makes feel so warm and fuzzy inside.