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On January 7, US president Donald Trump promised to withdraw the US from 35 international organizations and 31 UN agencies:

The Memorandum orders all Executive Departments and Agencies to cease participating in and funding 35 non-United Nations (UN) organizations and 31 UN entities that operate contrary to U.S. national interests, security, economic prosperity, or sovereignty.

Unverified: then the White House deleted the announcement from their website (personal note: I did receive 404 on it for a while).

Correction: announcement is still up or has reappeared. An archived copy is also available in case they change their mind.

    • CanadaPlus@futurology.todayEnglish
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      7 days ago

      So if the US genuinely invade that would be considered triggering Article V as the article doesn’t have an exemption clause of said invader being a different NATO Member.

      Sort of? Turkey actually tested this once. Since it was Turkey and Greece it all kind of just got smoothed over. If it was the US the entire thing becomes a farce, and the treaty is just a piece of paper.

      Furthermore the way NATO is structured is it can’t function unless the US is at the steering wheel.

      Are you just thinking about all the US officers involved in running it? It’s not like the US actually, officially calls the shots.

        • CanadaPlus@futurology.todayEnglish
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          7 days ago

          If NATO is just the US, why wasn’t it in Iraq? Because the US didn’t want help? I was there, that was not the message they were putting out.

            • CanadaPlus@futurology.todayEnglish
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              7 days ago

              Oh, so there is more than the US’s say-so at play.

              It’s almost like it’s a voluntary agreement to coordinate and defend each other. One which doesn’t intrinsically depend on the US in any way, but just happens to have the US as by far the largest member.

                • CanadaPlus@futurology.todayEnglish
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                  6 days ago

                  Oh, okay. AWS is actually a good analogy. It’s a huge pillar of the existing infrastructure, and if it was gone it would be a pretty huge, unprecedented crisis. The internet would still come back, though. (Since I’m on all alt platforms already, I actually didn’t notice it was down until I saw it on the news!)

                  Similarly, NATO would be in a bind, but I have every reason to think the considerable power and common interests of the remaining parties would see it through. One big question I’ve seen mentioned is the American officers that staff parts of it. Either they could keep working there even if the US is not a member, which is possible, or there would be just be a period of interruption to it’s coordination functions while the ranks are refilled. Since Britain and France are nuclear powers, just article 5 is a strong protection already, though.