CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) — At least seven explosions and low-flying aircraft were heard around 2 a.m. local time Saturday in Venezuela’s capital, Caracas. The government accused the United States of attacking civilian and military installations in multiple states.
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Venezuela’s government, in the statement, called on its supporters to take to the streets.
“People to the streets!” the statement said. “The Bolivarian Government calls on all social and political forces in the country to activate mobilization plans and repudiate this imperialist attack.”
The statement added that President Nicolás Maduro had “ordered all national defense plans to be implemented” and declared “a state of external disturbance.” That state of emergency gives him the power to suspend people’s rights and expand the role of the armed forces.
NONE OF THIS SHIT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED IF KAMALA HAD WON.
INACTION TO FASCISM IS COMPLACENCY TO FASCISM
Edit: Seeing all of these bitches coping and seething acting like Kamala would’ve gone on a global blitzkrieg.
You people are fucking pathetic. Your refusal to live in reality is the real reason the left never succeeds. Your lack of action puts Venezuelan blood on your hands too.
I would like to start out by saying I would’ve preferred Harris over Trump, and that the two parties are NOT the same. For example, the FTC as it was during Biden would never have happened under a republican administration.
What makes you think that bombing Venezuela wouldn’t have happened under Harris? I can only think of three explanations: because she is a woman, because she is a democrat, or because Kamala Harris specifically is against foreign intervention.
I would like to take this moment to reiterate that I would’ve preferred Harris over Trump, and that the two parties are NOT the same.
The first explanation sounds weirdly sexist to me, so I won’t spend too much time on it. We don’t have a female US president to compare with, but look at the voting record in congress and the senate on the use of force in the invasion of Iraq back in 2002. When you control for party affiliation, women were actually more likely than men to vote in favor of the invasion.
I would like to take this moment to reiterate that I would’ve preferred Harris over Trump, and that the two parties are NOT the same.
Maybe because she’s a democrat then? Let’s look at some recent democratic presidents, and see how they fared on foreign interventions.
Obama: 40 billion in military aid to Israel, expanded drone campaigns in Yemen, Somalia, Pakistan. Surge of 30k troops to Afghanistan. Continued use of black sites and torture camps like Gitmo. Explicit legal protection for the torturers.
Biden: 18B in military aid to Israel as it was committing a genocide. Air strikes on Yemen, Somalia, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan.
I would like to take this moment to reiterate that I would’ve preferred Harris over Trump, and that the two parties are NOT the same.
Maybe Harris is an especially anti foreign intervention person then. From her DNC speech I quote: “I will ensure America has the strongest, most lethal fighting force in the world.” What do you reckon she wanted that fighting force for? A tea party?
I would’ve preferred Harris over Trump. It would’ve mattered a great deal for women’s rights, lgbt rights, and to some small extent even a bit for worker’s rights. But to pretend the electorate has any meaningful choice when it comes to US imperialism, is, I think, not realistic.
Your reply is a colossal waste of time to cope and seeth.
- Kamala, nor Biden, ever made any indications that regime change in Venezuela was on their radar. Biden had 4 years to execute such a thing, but his focus was never on Venezuela. We have no evidence whatsoever that Kamala’s would be either.
- Understand that regime change in Venezuela was a part of project 2025. Trump’s policy from the Heritage Foundation,a Trump ally. It was always specifically on his roadmap, not Kamala’s.
- Trump attempted regime change in Venezuela in his first term and failed. Much of this due to the safe guards of competent military leadership there to push back against his illegal orders. Under Biden, this leadership wasn’t purged for yes men. There’s no reason to believe Kamala would’ve done it either. Trump, however, immediately started purging military leadership in his 2nd term, specifically so he could have yes men in place who’d agree to this.
- The constitution, although battered, wasn’t set on fire under Biden like it has been under Trump, and there’s zero indication that it would have been under Kamala. Neither Biden nor Kamala ever indicated they would ever take power to eliminate all safe guards and watch dogs, send the National Guard to invade US cities to terrorize dissonance, nor give their own private Gestapo (ICE) a budget to dwarf the Marines.
- Not Biden nor Kamala certainly indicated they’d declare all opposition domestic terrorists (NSPM-7) with the explicit goal of finding legal means to kidnap and kill dissonant voices. Especially on the eve of the most unpopular was in US history.
You try so hard to cope and fail so miserably.
It doesn’t matter if you spam fuck you’d prefer Kamala over Trump. What your spreading is objectively, pro-Trump propaganda and outright lies.
This “both sides” bullshit doesn’t just only benefit the fascists, its also blatantly untrue for anyone who actually researches the topic.
Was Kamala an angel? FUCK NO!
Are the Dems virtuous and pro-proletariat? FUCK NO!
Are we and the rest of the world worse off under Trump than Kamala? OBJECTIVELY FUCK YES!
I don’t know man, I see a pattern of every single democratic president since Eisenhower, no exceptions, enthusiastically committing war crimes, and you’re trying to tell me “no, not this one, this one is different”. Sounds like one of us is maybe a little bit in denial.
Also, implying that it’s a waste of time to look at the past actions of democrats to try and get a feel for what they will do in the future is such a self report.
Idk man, I think you’re reading what you want to read and not what I said, and instead are coping hard to justify surrender to fascists in 2024.
There is zero evidence whatsoever that Venezuela, let alone the absolute rapid-fire destruction of the US constitution and rule of law to get us here would have happened under Kamala. Especially since it didn’t happen under Biden. Venezuela was only ever really discussed by the fascists and invading it and taking over was in Project 2025
I think you’re coping with an extreme reach in this situation. You’re pointing to the actions of past Dems to claim Kamala might have very specifically attacked Venezuela unprovoked.
Insane cope. Just accept the left foolishly surrendered to fascists because they became too blinded for their hate of neo-liberals to see they were cutting their own balls off.
So to convince me that candidate A would not do xyz, you keep harping on about candidate B and how they would do xyz. Do you understand why that’s not a very convincing argument? We all know about project 2025, we all know about republicans. We’re looking at it. That doesn’t make democrats any better (on imperial foreign interventionist policies).
You clearly don’t read.
You and your camp make the dumb ass claim that Kamala would have likely done the same thing with Venezuela, when I say this wouldn’t have happened under Kamala.
I’ve provided my reasoning for why. You lot absolutely refuse to provide any reasoning or evidence to your side that does t rely on circumstances that don’t directly relate to the situation.
I’m ashamed of my country. JFC.
Shame will not change a thing
It’s an american led coup.
Not even the first in south America but absolutely the most blatant.
Edit: “Negotiated exit” could mean a few things but it probably means they had him and his family and said ‘come with us or we go to our alternative orders’
To be clear Maduro is an ass but what the USA has done is internationally intolerable and is the kidnapping of a foreign head of state.
To be clear Maduro is an ass
But then so is Trump. Each one is an asscheek, they go together.
Drug lord vs pedophile hard to say if I want either to live or be happy.
Can we take neither and have it not fuck over the people tho?
Can you show me the evidence of Maduro being a druglord? You know this is all bullshit made up by Trump and the murderers who want their oil.
Goddamn war criminals and a country full of pathetic cowards who are too weak to put a stop to their criminal mafia regime. Absolutely disgusting!
Some of us are voting progressive and protesting/boycotting at every opportunity while still trying to make a wage to live on so I dont really appreciate the global hate. I get it, but I dont appreciate it. (edit: spelling)
I just wonder what else it will take for your obviously criminal president to be removed from office.
I mean, you are ruled by organized crime: the state not only protects a pedophile ring, but makes it possible in the first place; you invade sovereign states; your elite enriches itself to an unprecedented extent at the expense of the citizens; and masked thugs roam the country, randomly attacking people with the wrong skin color. And these are just some of the completely obvious crimes committed by your government.
I realize that there are many opponents of this regime, but the fact remains: your pedophile president and his henchmen are getting away with whatever they do because there is no serious resistance, such as a general strike. Individual days when people take to the streets will not be enough to put an end to this, because your media is controlled by those who have been shamelessly exploiting your people for a long time. And yet: US citizens are putting up with it – I don’t even want to imagine what it will take for Americans to finally throw off their yoke.
I’m sorry to have to say it in such broad terms, and I am aware that there is resistance, but your regime not only exploits US citizens, it is a danger to the entire world.
We are nation of laws, and we still have a few legal steps to go through, including the 2026 Midterm election, and the 2028 election. Both of those elections give the Democrats the legal authority to take back America. If they do, hopefully they act decisively, and don’t totally squander the opportunity, like Biden did, destroying his legacy.
If MAGA prevents those elections, or refuses to recognize the results, then they have gone off-Constitution, and it’s on. When it becomes clear to citizens that MAGA has fully rejected any pretense of honoring or respecting the law, Democracy, and the Constitution, there WILL be serious repercussions, almost certainly violent.
There is a 50-50 chance that we get out of this through elections, IF Dems actually use their elected power to fully crush MAGA mercilessly. If they don’t, then it will take violence, and that will come eventually and inevitably.
Well, that remains to be seen. To be honest, I can’t imagine anyone being prosecuted for their crimes, even with the best will in the world. I’m not a U.S. citizen, but from a distance, it looks to me as if your systems are infiltrated to a degree that they no longer function properly - starting with the fact that the Democrats are merely the lesser of two evils, to the fact that your law enforcement system, even under their control, actively protects child molesters, if not actually empowering them to commit their crimes, to the fact that your highest legal authority, the Supreme Court, is so obviously corrupt that it places the president above the law in a supposedly democratic country, which is completely incompatible with any democratic constitution.
Of course, I’m rooting for you, but I think it’s naive to put your faith in a system that has proven time and again that it represents the interests of the powerful rather than those of the people. The proof of this is the fact that large sections of the population in the richest country in the world have to live as if they were in a third world country - for a European like me, it is incomprehensible how one can not only allow this, but also approve of it.
Edit: Just to illustrate what I mean: if your legal system worked even halfway properly, your president would have gone to prison long before he became president - he has committed so many serious crimes that it is more than telling that he was not already sentenced to life imprisonment in the 1990s.
So you’d be one of the first people to pick up a gun and die at the hands of your government?
It’s easy to shit on people just trying to survive when you’re not in their situation.
At some point we will have to pick up pitchforks.
Unfortunately, I’m afraid that this point will never come - and that’s why I’m pissed off. I don’t think anyone can complain about that, because you are represented by a criminal, a rapist even.
In fact, I think you should see that something is being done as soon as possible, because it is obvious that your regime is in the process of establishing a totalitarian state - and then you will have to reckon with repressive measures like in Russia. Why do you think ICE has a budget that corresponds to the military spending of a medium-sized country? Well, it’s obviously a secret police force that will soon no longer be harassing only foreigners.
I’m sorry to be so blunt, but no one other than the US citizens themselves can eliminate this plague, because you have an invincible army and nuclear weapons - all in the hands of that orange monster and his ruthless henchmen.
Boycott anything from the US. Hit the billionaires in their pockets. That’s what’s driving this.
I hate Trump. But I have a friend in Venezuela. It’s been hell for him and his family the last couple years. Maduro and his “elites” controlled the country and caused massive poverty to its citizens. This is the best news of hope he can’t stop talking about. Maybe it’s reading it on the news that gives us our biased opinions but for someone who is living there in the hell caused by Maduro and his group this is the best news you can imagine.
I think that’s a fair perspective - though I am certainly concerned about Trump starting wars without going through congress, as well as the precedent this sets for invading other countries without cause. (Granted, historically, the US has done both, but that doesn’t make it right). Additionally, this could just mean Venezuela swaps out this dictator for a US-friendly dictator.
This is the equivalent of letting homelander kill the mafia boss in your town. Unfortunately he’s not leaving soon and will cause a lot more damage before this is all done.
Exactly. I can understand being glad the mafia boss is dead, but it’s a “change in management” not liberation
“I have a friend in Iraq. It’s been hell for him and his family the last couple of years. Hussein and his “elites” controlled the country and caused massive poverty to its citizens”
You guys are fucking laughable, “every US invasion is bad except the current one”. I can’t believe the Iraq playbook still fucking works on you
What? I’m not ok with any of this I’m remarking on the fact that people in Venezuela are celebrating. There are more people in this world than us you know.
For every supposed “Venezuelan celebrating in Venezuela” there are ten frightened that their country is being invaded. Maduro was democratically elected by the people of Venezuela, the majority literally want him there.
You’re wrong on that. I haven’t heard any Venezuelan claim Maduro was elected. He cemented his seat in power after the last election where he clearly lost. So stop making things up for your own optics.
https://www.journalofdemocracy.org/articles/how-maduro-stole-venezuelas-vote/
The Bolivarian revolution counted with the wide support of the people since its inception, and this support only dwindled recently because of extreme economic sanctions by the US. The Bolivarian revolution therefore has the popular support of the people until the sanctions are lifted and the Venezuelan people can carry out free elections free from external interference.
Mangione kills person “responsible” for deaths of thousands.
“True hero!”
USA attacks nations “responsible” for deaths of thousands.
“TERRORISM!”
So predictable, it’s boring.
