• ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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    2 days ago

    The only one referring to vague vibes here is you bud. The disaster that is F22 is very well documented

    On the other hand, China has consistently shown the ability to produce things that actually work.

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      Jfs has been a cluster, they wanted a VTOL jet that do everything, which physics doesn’t like. But with 15 years extra development, they kinda did it.

      80% readiness is higher than most jets, my sources are actually showing loser, but still in line with other military jets.

      A-10 Thunderbolt II (67 percent) and the F-16C (69 percent), while significantly outperforming air superiority fighters like the F-15C (33 percent) and F-22 (52 percent). https://www.sandboxx.us/news/why-media-coverage-of-the-f-35-repeatedly-misses-the-mark/

      And is your third source just saying that the biggest problem with the F22 is that they want more of them? That hardly seems like a criticism of the plane itself.

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        Jfs has been a cluster, they wanted a VTOL jet that do everything, which physics doesn’t like. But with 15 years extra development, they kinda did it.

        In the same way the Cybertruck is kind of a truck.

        80% readiness is higher than most jets, my sources are actually showing loser, but still in line with other military jets.

        80% is not the readiness of F22, but a target they can’t hit.

        And is your third source just saying that the biggest problem with the F22 is that they want more of them? That hardly seems like a criticism of the plane itself.

        It’s a criticism of the abysmal production capability showing that these things are artisanally made.

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          Did you see the comparison to other jets?

          Su57 is artisanally made, less than two dozen. ~200 is a short production run, they shut it down early because those 200 could defeat every other air force on the planet several times over. But tech has progressed since then, it’s only a bit better than the J20. But like the U2, that’s not it’s fault.

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            If the US ever had use them to fight a peer competitor then these 200 would disappear very quickly. At that point the US would be unable to replace them because it lacks industrial capacity to do so.

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              It lacks the molds, fittings, and jigs to do so. They were destroyed after the production run shut down. Similar story to the F1 Saturn V engines, it’d be more work to recreate them than to make something better.

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                F35 was an attempt to make something better, and after over a trillion dollars being poured into the project over many years, it’s an unmitigated disaster.

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                  No, it was an attempt to make something stol and cheaper, and it succeeded after billions of extra dollars and an extra decade. NGAD is supposed to be the all around better replacement.

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                    You can keep repeating that it succeeded till you’re blue in the face, but the reality is that it’s far from a successful platform. It’s highly unreliable, and it needs a ton expensive of maintenance. It’s the opposite of what you want in a weapon which is to be cheap, reliable, and easy to service. It’s a toy.