Summary

New York City has become the first U.S. city to implement a congestion charge, with car drivers paying up to $9 daily to enter areas south of Central Park.

The scheme aims to reduce traffic and fund public transport but has faced opposition, including from Donald Trump, who has vowed to overturn it.

Fees vary by vehicle type, with trucks and buses paying higher rates.

Despite legal challenges, the initiative moves forward as New York remains the world’s most congested urban area, with peak traffic speeds averaging just 11 mph.

  • Chef@sh.itjust.works
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    2 days ago

    There is one downside that I don’t think people consider enough when discussing congestion pricing:

    Trucks will now find alternate routes that will hurt poorer neighborhoods.

    Example: In order to go between New Jersey and Long Island, some trucks traditionally take routes through Manhattan as it is geographically faster to go crosstown than to detour north or south.

    In order to drive from New Jersey to Long Island, to avoid the new congestion pricing trucks will most likely take the George Washington Bridge, drive through the South Bronx, and come down into Queens via the Throggs Neck, Whitestone, or RFK Bridges.

    The South Bronx is about to absorb a LOT more of that traffic. Anyone taking the Major Deegan or Bruckner during rush hour knows it’s already beyond fucked with traffic.

    Now, the traditionally poorer residents of the South Bronx are about to experience more air pollution, more noise, more road repairs, and majorly slower travel time anywhere.

    Congestion pricing doesn’t remove the traffic, it just re-routes it into poorer neighborhoods.

    (NOTE: I am a NYC car owner and still for congestion pricing. NYC should be way more pedestrian and bike friendly and while this program has downsides, it is a step in the right direction.)

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      Apply it to areas you want fewer people driving. Don’t exclude poorer neighborhoods.

      Economically, this is not an either or. It will both reduce AND divert traffic. Some will choose to pay, some will choose an alternate route, some will choose alternate forms of transport.

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        Agreed. The next phases should keep expanding the zone until there is an equilibrium across all the travel routes.

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      2 days ago

      Counter point. If the congestion pricing extended all the way through The Bronx, Queens, and The Mt. Vernon or Mt. Hebron (I honestly forgot which one is just north of The Bronx, and which one is upstate. Didn’t live there for very long.) area, this wouldn’t be an issue for any of the boroughs.

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        Definitely agree. It needs to be implemented in a way that won’t punish the adjacent communities unfairly.

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          Unfortunately, I live in SD, CA. You’ll have to organize to get this common sense legislation passed through all of The Boroughs

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            There are a few community organizations that are bringing attention to it. Everyone is waiting to see if the reality matches the predictions. It just went into effect today.

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      2 days ago

      If other areas of NYC have too much congestion, maybe they should have congestion pricing too…

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        Definitely agree. It’s just something that will always push traffic to the adjacent area. Eventually it could be all NYC then Westchester county will become the traffic inheritor.

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      Lmao no way it’s faster for more trucks to go over the GW bridge than go around NYC entirely they’ll hit an equilibrium damn quick

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      Why wouldn’t they increase the fees there too? The goal should be to get cars down to zero.