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I think people have a pretty distorted view of the cultural background of ww2: Folks were anti-Nazis because they were “the bad guys”, not because of their ideology. I mean, sure , a fair few people probably thought fascism was shit but the popular acrimony against Germany et al was not anti-fascist in essence. it was simply old-fashioned war and they were the enemy.
Just like all the racist jokes your shitty uncle made about Saddam in the 90s and/or 2000s
Not true, they didn’t like the Nazis for several reasons, most of them good but a few bad ones.
They did not like them because they were antidemocratic and banned free speech.
They didn’t like them because they murdered innocent people including women and children which offended their Christian values. (These are not the same types of Christians as the neochristan fascists):
They did not like Germany because they were overly militaristic, causing the other countries like Britain to have to spend a ton of money on their military.
Many people in America at that time we’re not as anti racist as in modern terms, but they did not like the level of racism that existed in Germany. They believed nonwhites to be inferior in ways, but they didn’t think they were inhuman. Hitler generally looked at these things like a math equation. To him he didn’t not believe in any religion or anything. He did not believe in any type of morality. It was all about a will to power, and so to him if he won then he won, simple as that, it didn’t matter who he killed or for what reason.
America was actually much more socialist at this time, and also Britain and France, even if they didn’t like communism. Not really because they thought it was socialist, but because they thought it was totalitarian and a mob movement run by ignorant people.
Also the right wing tries to coup the U.S government which soured their reputation among more patriotic and nationalistic politicians at the time. FDR was extremely popular. He called himself a progressive or new nationalists. I think Democrats held 90% of the house at that time. Socialism was very popular although FDR didn’t like calling himself a socialist because of its increasing association with communists who also called themselves socialists. He was essentially a social Democrat/ borderline democratic socialist.
Also everything the Nazis stood for was just extremely anti American. Yes there were dixkheads like Henry Ford and stuff who admire the Nazis and were very racist, but most Americans were not. The brisish at this time did not even understand American racism at all because they didn’t have it in the same way at the time. The empires were very multiethnic. They thought of these things as being cultural and not racial things. British people considered british culture to be superior to others, but they didn’t really extend this to race. Their racist ideas were more realistic. Slight differences between races but in reality it’s almost all nurture.
The only bad reason they were against them was because the Nazis were nationalists and didn’t want foreign companies in their economy. The British and Americans didn’t like this. They had extensive investments around the world. Germany didn’t really have an empire at this time. It is obviously good, at least to me anyways that the people and state of a country retain control of all its industry and natural resources. Foreign investment is usually bad unless you are one of the few people in the right wing puppet state or military who gets paid off to allow it to happen.
I think people have a pretty distorted view of the cultural background of ww2: Folks were anti-Nazis because they were “the bad guys”, not because of their ideology. I mean, sure , a fair few people probably thought fascism was shit but the popular acrimony against Germany et al was not anti-fascist in essence. it was simply old-fashioned war and they were the enemy.
Just like all the racist jokes your shitty uncle made about Saddam in the 90s and/or 2000s
Not true, they didn’t like the Nazis for several reasons, most of them good but a few bad ones.
They did not like them because they were antidemocratic and banned free speech.
They didn’t like them because they murdered innocent people including women and children which offended their Christian values. (These are not the same types of Christians as the neochristan fascists):
They did not like Germany because they were overly militaristic, causing the other countries like Britain to have to spend a ton of money on their military.
Many people in America at that time we’re not as anti racist as in modern terms, but they did not like the level of racism that existed in Germany. They believed nonwhites to be inferior in ways, but they didn’t think they were inhuman. Hitler generally looked at these things like a math equation. To him he didn’t not believe in any religion or anything. He did not believe in any type of morality. It was all about a will to power, and so to him if he won then he won, simple as that, it didn’t matter who he killed or for what reason.
America was actually much more socialist at this time, and also Britain and France, even if they didn’t like communism. Not really because they thought it was socialist, but because they thought it was totalitarian and a mob movement run by ignorant people.
Also the right wing tries to coup the U.S government which soured their reputation among more patriotic and nationalistic politicians at the time. FDR was extremely popular. He called himself a progressive or new nationalists. I think Democrats held 90% of the house at that time. Socialism was very popular although FDR didn’t like calling himself a socialist because of its increasing association with communists who also called themselves socialists. He was essentially a social Democrat/ borderline democratic socialist.
Also everything the Nazis stood for was just extremely anti American. Yes there were dixkheads like Henry Ford and stuff who admire the Nazis and were very racist, but most Americans were not. The brisish at this time did not even understand American racism at all because they didn’t have it in the same way at the time. The empires were very multiethnic. They thought of these things as being cultural and not racial things. British people considered british culture to be superior to others, but they didn’t really extend this to race. Their racist ideas were more realistic. Slight differences between races but in reality it’s almost all nurture.
The only bad reason they were against them was because the Nazis were nationalists and didn’t want foreign companies in their economy. The British and Americans didn’t like this. They had extensive investments around the world. Germany didn’t really have an empire at this time. It is obviously good, at least to me anyways that the people and state of a country retain control of all its industry and natural resources. Foreign investment is usually bad unless you are one of the few people in the right wing puppet state or military who gets paid off to allow it to happen.