I am not going to engage on russian language in Ukraine. I was pretty clear I have no issues with private use of russian langauge and you somehow come up with “speaking russian in public in Kharkiv” (as a response to me stating you are whitewashing russian crimes, no less). This is borderline russian propaganda.
When you have a 140 million strong country that is mostly populated by genocidal imperialists, you would be a fool to not recognize how their language and culture is used to enable their violent imperialist goals.
Why should I not demand recognition of their genocidal actions in Chechnya in the 90s? I don’t believe they (alleged russian “liberals”) are genuine about their statements on Ukraine, they just don’t have any choice. I am giving you a chance to prove me wrong.
I don’t watch NFKRZ. Show me a video/article where he (or anyone else with a platform) openly states that russian actions in Chechnya in the 90s were genocidal (comparable to killing 7 million russian civilians) and were wrong. Is this really too much to ask?
You are enabling and whitewashing russian genocidal imperialism (in Ukraine, Georgia, Moldova, Chechnya, Syria and multiple African nations) by:
Refusing to treat russians like adults. You fail to recognize that they elected putin, they reelected him again after he shut down independent mass media. They supported the comical switcheroo with medvedev and supported making putin leader for life in 2012.
Ignoring near universal support among the russian population for genocidal imperialism in Chechnya, the invasion of Georgia, the annexation of Crimea and the full scale invasion of Ukraine and extermination of Ukrainian identity (with 10s of thousands of civilians in torture camps) in the occupied territories.
For you, they are always the victims, they are always innocent.
You come up with this discussion on “me denying them education” (what does this even mean?) and you can’t even explain what you mean by the opportunity to educate?
Furthermore, you refuse to outline how this alleged “opportunity to educate” is going to work and why this is a viable approach.
What you’re saying is that the people dealing with russian genocidal imperialism should should shut up and get killed and that we do not have the right to point out that russians should not be treated as innocent children and at a strong majority of their society are genuine supporters of genocidal imperialism.
I was pretty clear I have no issues with private use of russian langauge and you somehow come up with “speaking russian in public in Kharkiv”
I wonder why that is. Might it be because public is the opposite of private?
you would be a fool to not recognize how their language and culture is used to enable their violent imperialist goals.
Around 34% of Ukrainians are Russian native speakers. I suppose because speaking Russian makes people violent imperialists, they’re all violent imperialists? According to you, that is?
What you’re saying is that the people dealing with russian genocidal imperialism should should shut up and get killed
Those people who deal with Moscow’s imperialism, right now, on the frontline, defending Ukraine, are to a large portion Russian speakers. And you want to tell them that they can’t speak their native language because the people who shoot at them happen to also speak it.
Don’t be dense. I said I don’t care what language people use in private conversation (even if it happens to be outside or even in between people in a work environment).
I do have issues with promotion of russian culture and language. We have our our state language and our own heroes. No way should we promote imperialist symbols.
Care to address your whitewashing of russian genocidal imperialism and refusal to recognize their responsibility for putin?
What you’re saying is that the people dealing with russian genocidal imperialism should should shut up and get killed and that we do not have the right to point out that russians should not be treated as innocent children and at a strong majority of their society are genuine supporters of genocidal imperialism.
Care to address your whitewashing of russian genocidal imperialism and refusal to recognize their responsibility for putin?
Who is responsible? The roughly 80% native Russian speakers in Kharkiv or Odessa? They the ones invading?
I said I don’t care what language people use in private conversation (even if it happens to be outside or even in between people in a work environment).
So all streets should be renamed? Restaurant signs taken down? In other places such things are dealt with by having multilingual signs.
So is this what you believe?
No. You’re putting words in my mouth. What I want you to stop is demanding the oppression of an ethnic and linguistic minority in Ukraine which right now is dying on the frontline defending the country. Is that too much to ask.
Ukraine signed the ECRML. Be a good European and, unlike Moscow, care about the treaties you sign. Care about human rights. Don’t blame people for who they are, but what they do, and, do I need to remind you again: Those people whose culture you want to oppress are dying for Ukraine right now. “Glory to the Heroes” my ass, what you’re saying is “Glory to the heroes only if they say “Hamburger”, as soon as they say “Gamburger” then fuck them”.
You seem to be unable to distinguish between “Russian-speaking Ukrainian” and “Russian citizen”. Should Ireland, in your estimation, expel everyone who can’t speak Gaelic? Have all signs, all government communication, in Gaelic?
I am not going to engage on russian language in Ukraine. I was pretty clear I have no issues with private use of russian langauge and you somehow come up with “speaking russian in public in Kharkiv” (as a response to me stating you are whitewashing russian crimes, no less). This is borderline russian propaganda.
When you have a 140 million strong country that is mostly populated by genocidal imperialists, you would be a fool to not recognize how their language and culture is used to enable their violent imperialist goals.
Why should I not demand recognition of their genocidal actions in Chechnya in the 90s? I don’t believe they (alleged russian “liberals”) are genuine about their statements on Ukraine, they just don’t have any choice. I am giving you a chance to prove me wrong.
I don’t watch NFKRZ. Show me a video/article where he (or anyone else with a platform) openly states that russian actions in Chechnya in the 90s were genocidal (comparable to killing 7 million russian civilians) and were wrong. Is this really too much to ask?
You are enabling and whitewashing russian genocidal imperialism (in Ukraine, Georgia, Moldova, Chechnya, Syria and multiple African nations) by:
For you, they are always the victims, they are always innocent.
You come up with this discussion on “me denying them education” (what does this even mean?) and you can’t even explain what you mean by the opportunity to educate?
Furthermore, you refuse to outline how this alleged “opportunity to educate” is going to work and why this is a viable approach.
What you’re saying is that the people dealing with russian genocidal imperialism should should shut up and get killed and that we do not have the right to point out that russians should not be treated as innocent children and at a strong majority of their society are genuine supporters of genocidal imperialism.
I wonder why that is. Might it be because public is the opposite of private?
Around 34% of Ukrainians are Russian native speakers. I suppose because speaking Russian makes people violent imperialists, they’re all violent imperialists? According to you, that is?
Those people who deal with Moscow’s imperialism, right now, on the frontline, defending Ukraine, are to a large portion Russian speakers. And you want to tell them that they can’t speak their native language because the people who shoot at them happen to also speak it.
Make it make sense. Please make it make sense.
Don’t be dense. I said I don’t care what language people use in private conversation (even if it happens to be outside or even in between people in a work environment).
I do have issues with promotion of russian culture and language. We have our our state language and our own heroes. No way should we promote imperialist symbols.
Care to address your whitewashing of russian genocidal imperialism and refusal to recognize their responsibility for putin?
So is this what you believe?
Who is responsible? The roughly 80% native Russian speakers in Kharkiv or Odessa? They the ones invading?
So all streets should be renamed? Restaurant signs taken down? In other places such things are dealt with by having multilingual signs.
No. You’re putting words in my mouth. What I want you to stop is demanding the oppression of an ethnic and linguistic minority in Ukraine which right now is dying on the frontline defending the country. Is that too much to ask.
Ukraine signed the ECRML. Be a good European and, unlike Moscow, care about the treaties you sign. Care about human rights. Don’t blame people for who they are, but what they do, and, do I need to remind you again: Those people whose culture you want to oppress are dying for Ukraine right now. “Glory to the Heroes” my ass, what you’re saying is “Glory to the heroes only if they say “Hamburger”, as soon as they say “Gamburger” then fuck them”.
You seem to be unable to distinguish between “Russian-speaking Ukrainian” and “Russian citizen”. Should Ireland, in your estimation, expel everyone who can’t speak Gaelic? Have all signs, all government communication, in Gaelic?