An Indiana church is urging the Trump administration to "execute" members of the LGBTQ community because "the Bible teaches that those people are worthy of death," according to WISH-TV 8 in Indianapolis.In a sermon titled, "Pray the Gay Away," Stephen Falco, an evangelical preacher with the Sure Fou...
Place your best now about the odds that Trump tries to make being LGBTQ a capital offense. I’m going with 10%, which is already too high for me.
Why do you think some states have made sex crimes against children a capital offense? They call trans people groomers and predators. This is literally the intended effect.
Can you link to such a law, from the past 5 years (the new era of anti-lgbt hatred)?
Here is an article from 2023 that talks about the first proposed use of such a law in Florida.
I figured that would be the one. I don’t find this a satisfactory response.
(Emphasis mine). In my uninformed non-lawyer opinion, this law cannot be used to target LGBT people in general, as it only applies to physically violent crimes. So that excludes, say, doing a drag number for kids or just being yourself out in public. Might it be applied disproportionately to child rapists who happen to be LGBT? Quite plausibly, sure, but that’s not really the subject here.
Keep in mind that these are the small steps they are taking to get to the point where we are afraid to be seen in public.
At first it’s protect children from learning about LGBTQ+ culture by banning education, removing books (they don’t need to burn the books, they just remove ‘em). All in the name of stopping the spread of a radical agenda. Bear in mind we make up around 1-2% of the population in the US.
Then it is banning healthcare for minors, which consists of support, social transition and possibly puberty blockers. This is to protect the children from being “surgically mutilated”. Never mind the fact that children do not receive trans surgical interventions.
Next comes capital punishment for sex crimes against children. For now, it is reserved for physical sexual assaults.
The latest attempt against trans people was banning all trans healthcare for those on Medicaid. Trans patients account for approximately 0.4% of those on Medicaid. Around 276,000 trans people (as of 2022) out of 71,258,215 total people on Medicaid.
It is not much of a stretch to assume that they will continue to attempt to backdoor their way to banning trans health care for all trans Americans.
What’s after that? Classify presenting a trans, but obfuscated as “drag performances”, in any public setting. The public support of these laws has been from the messaging, by successfully equating drag performances with being based upon indecency. This is limited to 2 states at the moment, but the fact that it is illegal anywhere in the country is deeply disturbing.
In my opinion, they will continue to push further and further to make us fear being clocked (caught) in public, by legislating us into criminality. This may seem like a leap, but overall support for trans people has declined in recent years. While the major drops in support revolve around trans athletes and healthcare for minors, these issues are overblown and are used to erode public opinion of us.
TL;DR: The overall outlook for us right now is not good. I don’t expect ya to follow each link, I just wanted to back up my claims with reliable sources.
I follow Erin in the Morning, and I totally agree things aren’t looking good. Death camps aren’t impossible.
But you don’t have support for this statement right?
Let me be clear: I’m completely onboard with you. We probably have similar opinions. I just wanted to see the source for this claim. (That is, the claim that there exists a state which introduced a capital offense that could plausibly be used to target LGBTQ people.)
Perhaps I should clarify “intended effect” as it being a thin veil. They can claim they are doing this to protect children from all predators, while simultaneously repeating the groomers line over and over again.
In my opinion, it seems a little too coincidental that they pass this law in a state that has a very hostile anti-LGBTQ+ stance, while also attempting to portray us as child predators.
It’s possible that I am drawing conclusions incorrectly, but I sincerely doubt it.
Yeah, I mean, I agree it’s suspect. It’s probably the most anti-LGBT state right now, and they’ve been passing anti-trans laws, such as the drag ban you mentioned – it all lines up. The only thing missing here is that I don’t actually see how this particular law would actually be used to target LGBT people. I have a high prior that this is intended to be anti-LGBT, it’s just I don’t see how it actually could be. I would change my mind if I saw a plausible explanation of how it could be used to target LGBT people.