I appreciate that Carney is a pragmatist. With the way the world is today, that is the only successful strategy.

Geopolitically Canada is in a bit of a bind with everyone’s big brother in the West (US) turning heel so it makes sense to have good trade relationships with other large economies.

Trump has accelerated the expansion of fault lines in the West so if there ever was a time to hedge and diversify, it’s now.

Carney is similarly approaching a normalization of trade relations with India which is wise given their demographic dividend and growth trajectory. It would be short sighted not to do that.

There are issues with China’s brand of capitalism, no doubt. There is a touch of imperialism sure, but Canada is used to having strong relationships with imperial entities. Specifically, Britain and then the US. Although, both are Anglo Saxon so they may feel more familiar and that familiarity likely may make it easier to turn a blind eye to their misdeeds.

In any event Canada is used to dealing with big whales that occasionally do bad things so hopefully Carney can find points of leverage and use that to arrive at an agreement that is advantageous for the Canadian people.

I think getting in deeper with China is a mistake, so yes, I’m all for pushing the civil rights message and shitcan any deals we can possibly make with them

I wonder how much of this social media push is US astroturfing designed to accomplish exactly that. Much like the anti-coastal pipeline “environmental” lobby. Anything that keeps us in the American sphere of influence is to be suspected.

Evil CIA BS as usual. Like Iran, there is no liberalism that will pacify zionazi fasicsts holding on to their lies. How many EVs should Canada buy when we learn that the most humanist response of education and job creation, to CIA funded foreign terrorists in Xinxiang has resulted in peace and proseperity in the region? … or should we cater to pig fucking demonic shitstains insistence that whatever the CIA keeps saying is the status of Xinxiang is the truth?

Canadian fascist subservience to US fascism can’t be the democracy premitted free speech rammed down our throats.

I’m all for supporting Ontario auto industry. But it should be through attacks on the evil threatening it, instead of Canadian consumer lifeline that would also free tax payers from subsidizing jobs that will go away through automation anyway. If neo-lib nazi shitfilth wants to conern troll over human rights, then it should look at recent US news, ffs.

Make DoFo go suck every dick in Trump cabinet telling them “please master, drop tariffs or Canada will be forced to exterminate US owned auto sector from ever selling another climate terrorist guzzling vehicle ever again”

I think that ship has sailed long ago.

We should be reducing our import of Chinese developed technology, “smart” devices, phones, and EVs in particular. Every Chinese business big enough to play at the global scale has the government in it’s power structure. They don’t necessarily dictate business decisions but every bit of data collected is by default accessible by the government.

Having a significant fraction of a country driving around in Chinese EVs gives an insane amount of information to the Chinese government for free. And it’s not just direct information either like the driver’s identity, with millions of cars on the road a lot can be inferred, like if the parking lots at military bases suddenly fill up on a Tuesday afternoon or traffic between a high value person’s home and an airport gets unusually slow.

Cars have cellular modems, they have wifi and bluetooth hardware, if a particular person’s device was identified, for example, at a political meeting then that person could be trivially tracked by the dozens of Chinese cars and “smart” devices that they pass in a day. The information could be smuggled home along with all the normal diagnostic, update and service info. It is not in our best interest to let the Chinese government track individuals, be it politicians, expats, or activists.

This could be done today by the our government, and it is to some extent, to identify, and locate, protesters and criminals by their mobile devices but it takes time and access to equipment and logs that the government does not always own. A competent adversary who owns millions of devices in your country can do in seconds what takes law enforcement weeks to accomplish via conventional means.

It sounds paranoid but remember that China was caught operating their own “police” force around the world not long ago, they will take advantage of any opportunity they are given to spy on other countries and gain political control.

China doesn’t plan for the next fiscal quarter they plan for the next quarter century, and Canada’s resources are in their sights.

I have made this rant before, I will make it again

This kind of thing is only effective if it’s universal and I would support it on those grounds. But if we’re going to pick and choose who we decide to lecture on human rights records based on politics, it’s a pointless exercise. Like standing on a dead horse and calling it the moral high ground.

Our government condemning China while supplying support to Israel is just hypocritical, and would hurt our credibility.

It’s a trolley problem for sure.

Call it hypocrisy or not, it would help the people in China. And now, a Chinese organization is calling for action. Ignoring an opportunity to do the right thing won’t make you look less hypocritical, but more.