“Hidden in the federal government’s 634-page omnibus bill C-15, the Budget Implementation Act, is a measure that has so far escaped scrutiny. Under the pretext of regulatory efficiency, Prime Minister Mark Carney plans to grant cabinet ministers the power to exempt any individual or company from any federal law on the books — except for the Criminal Code — for up to six years.”

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    “Liberals” have rebranded what used to be conservatism as “abundance”.

    The NDP have been running as centrists, and the Conservatives are Nazis.

    This all happened so quickly.

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        It almost seems inevitable when you look at the merging of the conservatives and the reform party.

        By bringing them together they created this party that wanted to be more right than it was as a whole.

        Then with what’s also going on in the US they keep pushing more and more right, more and more crazy.

        That then opens a gap for the more centrist party the liberals to come in and fill that void while still championing some center and left things.

        And it just goes on and on further fueled by what’s happening in the south.

        Then you get MPs crossing the floor like what happened a few weeks ago, and that further brings them to the center right, or just outright right.

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        I think we’re more complicit than that…conservative parties from around the world meet to coordinate policy in a group chaired by Stephen Harper: the perversely named IDU. A truly terrifying group that rank and file conservatives haven’t heard of or will downplay as soon as they hear about it. All while they pretend the WEF is a progressive construct and not a conservative one.

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          Ya, a lot of people don’t realize there’s this global coordinated effort and Harper is helping lead it.

          I didn’t know he was still leading it, but at the time years ago I did.

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            As far as I’m aware he’s presently the chair.

            It’s not some make-work think tank…it’s a deeply influential policy control apparatus that makes most media guilty of gross malpractice for not keeping tabs on. It’s an umbrella that has groups across the full demographic spectrum.

            Conservative parties across the globe are sharing information about what propaganda/outright lies works and what doesn’t. Liberal and progressive parties have no such apparatus that keeps them in messaging lockstep.

            It’s exactly what conservatives conspiracy theorize that the WEF and other “globalist” entities do for “liberals”.

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                It’s not a secret that transphobia is a top wedge issue for conservatives. The IDU is absolutely focus grouping the rhetoric into easily digestible talking points.

                We already know there’s an online eco system that floats all of the talking points…the IDU consolidates the information and disseminates what tests well to the various groups, like the IDWU or IDYU (women, youth) who then translate it into a language their demographic will respond to and take out ads, meet with podcasters, etc

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    Here’s the relevant part of the bill copied below, and the link to the bill on parl.ca. Scroll down a little bit to section 208. There are some things I trimmed out for brevity. This is not the whole thing, just the parts I considered most relevant.


    208 Section 11 of the Act and the heading before it are replaced by the following:

    #Exemptions to Encourage Innovation, Competitiveness or Economic Growth

    Order
    12 (1) Subject to subsections (3) and (7), a minister may, by order, for a specified validity period of not more than three years and on any terms that the minister considers appropriate, exempt an entity from the application of

    • (a) a provision of an Act of Parliament, except the Criminal Code, if the minister is responsible for the Act;
    • (b) a provision of an instrument made under an Act of Parliament, except an instrument made under the Criminal Code, if
      • (i) the minister is responsible for the Act, or
      • (ii) the body that made the instrument is accountable, through the minister, to Parliament for the conduct of its affairs; or
    • (c) a provision of an Act of Parliament, except the Criminal Code, or a provision of an instrument made under an Act of Parliament, except an instrument made under the Criminal Code, if the minister administers or enforces the provision.

    Conditions
    (3) A minister may make an order under subsection (1) only if the minister is of the opinion that

    • (a) the exemption is in the public interest;
    • (b) the exemption would enable the testing of, among other things, a product, service, process, procedure or regulatory measure with the aim of facilitating the design, modification or administration of a regulatory regime to encourage innovation, competitiveness or economic growth;
    • (c) the benefits associated with the exemption outweigh the risks;
    • (d) sufficient resources exist, and appropriate measures will be taken, to maintain oversight of the testing, manage any risks associated with the exemption and protect public health and safety and the environment; and
    • (e) a feasible implementation plan has been developed.

    #Transparency and Parliamentary Oversight

    Accessibility
    14 (1) Subject to subsections (2) and (3), a minister must, as soon as feasible after making an order under section 12, make the order and the following information publicly accessible:

    • (a) a description of the decision-making process and a summary of the reasons for the order; and
    • (b) a description of the process for providing comments or information to, or requesting information from, the minister in relation to the order.

    Exception

    • (2) The minister may exclude information that, in the minister’s opinion, would be inappropriate to make publicly accessible for reasons that include safety or security considerations or the protection of confidential or personal information.
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      The section on oversight is also critical. It basically gives the Minister the power to decide for themselves what information should not be made public as part of oversight, which is as good as saying there is no real oversight authority.

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      The AI industry in Canada has been pushing to essentially ‘self-regulate’, and (at least in this layperson’s opinion) seems like the legislative method for giving them what they want.

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    Does protest even do anything? I voted for Carney because I dreaded what the conservatives wanted to do and I voted liberal for the first (and now will be only) time in my life. Almost immediately all the shit I dreaded was happening anyway.

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      The liberals suck. I’ve plugged my nose the last few trips to the polls. I don’t like voting for them, but we literally have no other choice. I don’t like the federal NDP, I live in Alberta so I’m not even sure we had a green party candidate these last few rounds. It leaves no other choice, it’s either the Nazis or people who are the only real rational choice but still aren’t that great of a choice.

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    What happened to the rule of law? This is undermining public transparency and the role of parliament in much the same way that Trump has neutered the US Congressional branch and centralized power in the admin. If you’re pissed off at Danielle Smith and Doug Ford, this is just as bad!

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    For anyone else who likes to go straight to the source, it’s on pages 300-302 of the bill.

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    Gee, I can guess what laws these will be used to bypass 🙄

    Carney is doing everything PP wishes he could do. Nothing but a scam.

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      Worse. He’s acting like he’s running a dynasty and doesn’t seem to be aware that when he loses the next election he’s done Pollievre a huge favour…not just because all the legislation he’s passing is right out of the last Conservative platform.

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      I’m embarrassed to say I don’t immediately know which laws are going to be bypassed. Soemthing finance related?

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        Chances are it will bolster the bill he passed in the summer so he can do the abundance thing and build shit like the pipeline and housing without consultation. By “he” I obviously mean the private sector.

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    Hidden in the federal government’s 634-page omnibus bill C-15, the Budget Implementation Act, is a measure that has so far escaped scrutiny. Under the pretext of regulatory efficiency, Prime Minister Mark Carney plans to grant cabinet ministers the power to exempt any individual or company from any federal law on the books — except for the Criminal Code — for up to six years.

    Well fuck. I had high hopes for this man based on his leadership during the '08 crash. I was an idiot to think he’d be any better than the rest of the political scumbags who lead our cities, provinces and country.

    Maybe it’s time we have a nation-wide strike, before things get worse than they are now.

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      The Prime Minister is a figurehead, the party is a shield. Look for the contractors and advisors who actually drafted the bill. Then look for where they work when not advising to the government. That’s where you will fimd the real enemies of the people.

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      I voted for him because I dreaded what the conservatives would do if they got elected. Now I see that there isn’t much of a fucking difference. If anything he might be even worse. No wonder Trump endorsed him.

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        He’s a banker. Not an industry know for its charitable behaviour and history of being tough on big business.

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    I am a naturalized citizen who came to Canada to escape bullshit like this. Yet we are getting more of this crap and I feel like there is no hope. More and more authoritarian shit and weaker economic outlooks and even the rapid fire gun bans that do nothing other than want to eliminate sport shooting (I enjoy guns and I enjoy sport shooting. No I do not believe people should be carrying loaded guns on the street or form militas against the gubnament. Don’t be ridicules). Is making Canada unlivable for me.

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    How long before a new government amends it again to strike the Criminal Code exception?

    These people think we won’t do anything about their bullshit, and they can’t wait to call us all Convites if we show up in Ottawa to protest.

    I think it’s time for a general strike, regardless of whether or not they back down. This won’t stop until we show them where it leads.

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    Well we don’t have a respectable conservative party in this country that could push back, especially since this is exactly what they would have proposed.

    But a few questions:

    What provisions would likely be in danger of override?

    Is there any regulatory efficiency measures that would be acceptable?

    What would proper oversight look like?

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    plans to grant cabinet ministers the power to exempt any individual or company from any federal law on the books

    What can I say? Libs gonna Lib.

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      No, not really. Giving legal exemptions to businesses is solidly in the right wing, keep the rich getting richer, play book. Canada has no liberal party, we don’t even have a left leaning one at this point with the NDP backing some very anti-citizen policy.

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        I mean capital “L” Liberals are still pro-capitalism so they are still pro-corporations. Their policies are what contributed to the cost of living and housing crises across the world today. By all intents and purposes, the Liberal Party is right wing.

        NDP backing some very anti-citizen policy.

        I didn’t know about that. It seems to be the problem with many leftist parties is catering too much to the right.