• Fit_Series_573@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    But we are a third world country… Last month there were churches all over the world raising money to help feed American children while our government was shut down and couldn’t help cover subsidies for food.

    Make it make sense 🤡🌎

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      24 hours ago

      Third world means “brown people country” to him, that’s how it makes sense for them. Almost every question about why this administration does or says anything can be answered with “racism” or “pedofilia”.

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        “third world” is an outdated Cold War term that referred to countries that weren’t aligned with either the US or USSR.

        It’s loosely bandied about these days to indicate an undeveloped country. Out of the developed countries, the US cares the least about its citizens. But anyone who thinks it isn’t a developed country hasn’t been to undeveloped one.

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          18 hours ago

          As someone who was born and raised in an undeveloped country, and also has been to Europe, the US, Africa, Asia and all over Latin America. US ain’t all that.

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          “decimate” is an outdated term that means to destroy one tenth of something.

          Language changes over time. With the Cold War being over there was no longer a need for a term that referred to countries not involved in the Cold War, so the meaning changed to something useful

          But anyone who thinks it isn’t a developed country…

          And speaking of meaning, 3rd world does not mean underdeveloped. However, one of the criteria for a country to be considered “First World” is “having a stable democracy.” So whatever you want to classify the US as it sure as fuck isn’t a First World Country.

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            The US isn’t the best place to live but objective measurements of quality of life prove that it isn’t the worst. Saying it is is nothing more than childish hyperbole.

            3rd world does not mean underdeveloped.

            Yes, it does. You just said the term shifted to fit that new meaning. The US has a stable democracy, in case you haven’t noticed.

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              prove that it isn’t the worst. Saying it is is nothing more than childish hyperbole.

              Who said that? I didn’t so I don’t know what you’re on about here.

              Yes, it does.

              For someone who just insisted Third World means nothing outside of the Cold War you are very certain (again) that you are exactly right about its meaning.

              The US has a stable democracy

              How many of its citizens believe election fraud happened or was attempted in the 2020 election? The 2024 election? How many believe there won’t be any attempts at election fraud in 2028? Citizens that do not trust their democratic process is evidence of that democracy not being stable.

              How much has the current government ignored trade deals that they have signed? How much flip flopping has happened without warning in regards to tariffs? Have these changes happened through the proper channels from the appropriate branches of government?

              How many stories have their been in the past couple months of the government taking actions that its own courts call rule as illegal, and the government continues to do it anyway defying court orders?

              If you think all of this sounds “stable” maybe you shouldn’t be lecturing people on the definition of words.

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                Who said that? I didn’t so I don’t know what you’re on about here.

                What I’m on about is people thinking the US is an underdeveloped country. That it’s “third world”. Whether or not you think the country is immoral, the fact that it’s developed doesn’t change.

                For someone who just insisted Third World means nothing outside of the Cold War you are very certain (again) that you are exactly right about its meaning.

                I suggest you reread my original comment because I said NOTHING of sort. I said both what it meant then and what it means now. It’s very clear in my comment. I said the meaning changed.

                How many of its citizens believe election fraud happened or was attempted in the 2020 election? The 2024 election? How many believe there won’t be any attempts at election fraud in 2028? Citizens that do not trust their democratic process is evidence of that democracy not being stable.

                Yeah well 150 - 160 million of them vote every time and despite Trump’s nonsense, the electoral victors are taking office and those ones who lost have left office, including Trump in 2020. 202 was the first time anyone tried pulling the shit Trump pulled. In 2024, it’s a handful of idiots on the internet. We just had a series of elections Democrats won. Your argument that there is no democracy going on is an absolute farce.

                How much has the current government ignored trade deals that they have signed? How much flip flopping has happened without warning in regards to tariffs? Have these changes happened through the proper channels from the appropriate branches of government?

                Did you forget what your argument is or something? These are all separate issues that have nothing to do with the electoral process.

                How many stories have their been in the past couple months of the government taking actions that its own courts call rule as illegal, and the government continues to do it anyway defying court orders?

                I’ve seen one, recently. And haven’t looked at it too closely. Otherwise, they have followed court orders, including retuning Brega Garcia. Why don’t you answer one of your own questions for once and tell us about all the times the government has defied court orders?

                If you think all of this sounds “stable” maybe you shouldn’t be lecturing people on the definition of words.

                Barely any of your points even touch on democracy, which is people electing government representatives. Which has and continues to happen in the US. Elections are happening the results are being respected. That’s indisputable. No matter how much anti-American bigotry you maintain, that fact does not change.

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          Yup, glad someone else mentioned this. First world was allied with the USA. Second world was allied with the USSR. Third world wasn’t allied with either.

          The reason “third world” became synonymous with “undeveloped” is because of why countries tended to be third world. Countries were largely third world because they weren’t developed enough to be notable allies to the USA or USSR. They didn’t have enough development to be able to contribute things like military tech or manpower outside of their own borders, or corruption was so rampant that the first and second worlds didn’t feel like they would be reliable.

          As far as the USA and USSR were concerned, third world countries were only “useful” as land for staging proxy wars. But that meant “third world” quickly became associated with “undeveloped, corrupt, and war-torn.”